Brussels Airlines in 2025

[lumumba]

Some of you seem to think adding a wet-lease for a short period of time can happen with a simple click on a compter.

You have to think of crew rest, crew positioning, aircraft availability, EU penalties have to be paid in delays as well on top of wet-lease costs.
It simply makes no sense to charter a wet-lease in most of these cases. If a Hi-Fly crew (for example) flies empty to an African destination, they also need to have a crew to fly back. Or the same crew with 12-14 hours rest.

Who said it's easy where do you read this?!
But this service exists, it can be used, it is expensive,sure it's not perfect, but it helps in times of crisis.
You can use your own crew also or at least partly.(not the pilots but that's manageable)
In any case, this crew problem can be solved, but it requires a dynamic team that tries to solve problems.

[Amare]

The SN205 that had arrived at Dakar this afternoon has the rest of the service cancelled, DSS-CKY-DSS-BRU.
SN205/206 is operated by OO-SFG.
I cannot obtain more detailed info at this time so we cannot jump to conclusion and the reason may be "just" one of those ground incidents, not the plane's "fault".

Whatever hit the fan, it is been in large quantity lately.
Golf was to operate Accra tomorrow and indeed this SN277 is already cancelled.

H.A.

SFG is AOG due to a hydraulic leak

It seems that they could fix it fast. The new departure time is set

Yes. Already back at EBBR. SN379 canx today and allocated to 369 tomorrow

[Lux_avi]

Some of you seem to think adding a wet-lease for a short period of time can happen with a simple click on a compter.

You have to think of crew rest, crew positioning, aircraft availability, EU penalties have to be paid in delays as well on top of wet-lease costs.
It simply makes no sense to charter a wet-lease in most of these cases. If a Hi-Fly crew (for example) flies empty to an African destination, they also need to have a crew to fly back. Or the same crew with 12-14 hours rest.

Who said it's easy where do you read this?!
But this service exists, it can be used, it is expensive,sure it's not perfect, but it helps in times of crisis.
You can use your own crew also or at least partly.(not the pilots but that's manageable)
In any case, this crew problem can be solved, but it requires a dynamic team that tries to solve problems.

No you can't use your own crew. Not at all. Not the pilots; neither the cabin crew.
The cabin crew from SN would be there for commercial reasons only and do not replace the required "safety" crew on the leased aircraft.

If you want a wet-lease to help a stranded aircraft somewhere, you need to take crew rest or crew positioning into account.
On long haul this is obviously more complicated and not necessarily faster than getting the aircraft repaired or rebook the pax on other flights.

[Atlantis]

OO-SFG is finally back in business.
She is now planned to operate SN299 to ABJ this Saturday 06SEP.
Must have been something serious to keep her grounded since 12AUG.

H.A.

In the meantime, OO-SFH arrived at Sabena Engineering on 03SEP for both MLG and NLG replacement. Already two days later than originally planned, so we can expect this one to be out of action until sometime next week at least.

Afterwards it should be OO-SFJ's turn.

I can now say that OO-SFH will not be finished for at least a few days still.

The NLG replacement has been completed (or at the very least nearly), but the new MLG installation has not started yet. Sabena Engineering has to wait for additional parts, as inspections have revealed corrosion on more parts/areas in both MLG bays.

This was kind of to be expected, as OO-SFH is an ex-Cathay Pacific bird, and her 14+ year run based at an airport located in a salty environment probably didn't do her much good in the long run.

I'll try to have more updates on the progress as time passes.

Any idea when SFH will be back? Almost 2 weeks ago that it went for replacing MLG and some stuff they discovered after

[Atlantis]

SFH back in service on 27.09

[Atlantis]

SFH back in service on 27.09

The flight for tomorrow is again removed

[Tim Verheyden]

In the meantime, OO-SFH arrived at Sabena Engineering on 03SEP for both MLG and NLG replacement. Already two days later than originally planned, so we can expect this one to be out of action until sometime next week at least.

Afterwards it should be OO-SFJ's turn.

I can now say that OO-SFH will not be finished for at least a few days still.

The NLG replacement has been completed (or at the very least nearly), but the new MLG installation has not started yet. Sabena Engineering has to wait for additional parts, as inspections have revealed corrosion on more parts/areas in both MLG bays.

This was kind of to be expected, as OO-SFH is an ex-Cathay Pacific bird, and her 14+ year run based at an airport located in a salty environment probably didn't do her much good in the long run.

I'll try to have more updates on the progress as time passes.

Any idea when SFH will be back? Almost 2 weeks ago that it went for replacing MLG and some stuff they discovered after

Appologies for the late reply.

The current status of OO-SFH is, to put it simply, not finished.

The new NLG and R/H MLG have been installed (to what extent, I cannot say for certain).

For the L/H MLG Sabena Engineering once again have/had to wait for parts. After the corrosion removal, the area was out of limits (too much material had to be removed). I unfortunately do not have a timeframe as to how long these remaining works will take, but to my knowledge, they have to be done by the end of October (yes, that is obviously quite a ways away, but that's the only hard deadline I'm reall sure of), because then a new aircraft arrives for a C-check, which is when the hangar has to be clear.

[Atlantis]

I can now say that OO-SFH will not be finished for at least a few days still.

The NLG replacement has been completed (or at the very least nearly), but the new MLG installation has not started yet. Sabena Engineering has to wait for additional parts, as inspections have revealed corrosion on more parts/areas in both MLG bays.

This was kind of to be expected, as OO-SFH is an ex-Cathay Pacific bird, and her 14+ year run based at an airport located in a salty environment probably didn't do her much good in the long run.

I'll try to have more updates on the progress as time passes.

Any idea when SFH will be back? Almost 2 weeks ago that it went for replacing MLG and some stuff they discovered after

Appologies for the late reply.

The current status of OO-SFH is, to put it simply, not finished.

The new NLG and R/H MLG have been installed (to what extent, I cannot say for certain).

For the L/H MLG Sabena Engineering once again have/had to wait for parts. After the corrosion removal, the area was out of limits (too much material had to be removed). I unfortunately do not have a timeframe as to how long these remaining works will take, but to my knowledge, they have to be done by the end of October (yes, that is obviously quite a ways away, but that's the only hard deadline I'm reall sure of), because then a new aircraft arrives for a C-check, which is when the hangar has to be clear.

Thanks once again for the very accurate information

[Homo Aeroportus]

FR24 indicates an SN9901 BRU-HGK by OO-SFB leaving BRU today at 10:14

H.A.

[Bel33]

C-check starting ...

[Homo Aeroportus]

C-check starting ...

Back home then for B-LAH.
I guess a C-check is a good 3 weeks on an A333?

H.A.

[Bel33]

around a month but think about some other problems like corrosion during inspection...

[nordikcam]

And hop, another quince stuck in the credibility of the long-haul SN...the Festival of cancellations has resumed with the end of the summer season! JFK yesterday Abidjan and Cotonou today! What misery!

[koninckske]

And hop, another quince stuck in the credibility of the long-haul SN...the Festival of cancellations has resumed with the end of the summer season! JFK yesterday Abidjan and Cotonou today! What misery!

So bored of your complaining. Get a life please and move on

[nordikcam]

And hop, another quince stuck in the credibility of the long-haul SN...the Festival of cancellations has resumed with the end of the summer season! JFK yesterday Abidjan and Cotonou today! What misery!

So bored of your complaining. Get a life please and move on

It’s not easy to face reality, it’s true! Have a nice day !

[lumumba]

And hop, another quince stuck in the credibility of the long-haul SN...the Festival of cancellations has resumed with the end of the summer season! JFK yesterday Abidjan and Cotonou today! What misery!

So bored of your complaining. Get a life please and move on

You haven't had the experience of flying long-haul regularly with Brussels Airlines and believe me it's very frustrating, you shouldn't take it lightly!

And it's very bad for the company.

[Tim Verheyden]

I can now say that OO-SFH will not be finished for at least a few days still.

The NLG replacement has been completed (or at the very least nearly), but the new MLG installation has not started yet. Sabena Engineering has to wait for additional parts, as inspections have revealed corrosion on more parts/areas in both MLG bays.

This was kind of to be expected, as OO-SFH is an ex-Cathay Pacific bird, and her 14+ year run based at an airport located in a salty environment probably didn't do her much good in the long run.

I'll try to have more updates on the progress as time passes.

Any idea when SFH will be back? Almost 2 weeks ago that it went for replacing MLG and some stuff they discovered after

Appologies for the late reply.

The current status of OO-SFH is, to put it simply, not finished.

The new NLG and R/H MLG have been installed (to what extent, I cannot say for certain).

For the L/H MLG Sabena Engineering once again have/had to wait for parts. After the corrosion removal, the area was out of limits (too much material had to be removed). I unfortunately do not have a timeframe as to how long these remaining works will take, but to my knowledge, they have to be done by the end of October (yes, that is obviously quite a ways away, but that's the only hard deadline I'm reall sure of), because then a new aircraft arrives for a C-check, which is when the hangar has to be clear.

Another update:

The L/H MLG was finally installed this past weekend, and gear retraction and extention tests have been performed.

I believe only the MLG servicing has to be done now, before OO-SFH is finally ready to fly again.

Take this with a grain of salt of course, until the CRS has been given, anything can happen still.

[longwings]

You haven't had the experience of flying long-haul regularly with Brussels Airlines and believe me it's very frustrating, you shouldn't take it lightly!

And it's very bad for the company.

I'm probably taking a bait I should not, but what do you think near daily updates on flight cancellations will achieve? It's not as if Lufthansa will go and buy a new aircraft to stop the daily reports, even though I do agree it's not a good image for the airline.

Depending on which study you read, up to 80% of passengers fly three times a year or less, and are highly motivated by ticket price. They're not reading this forum, odds are they've not been caught in a cancellation before, and if they have, they'll risk another if it saves them $50 on the airfare. So, again, I am confused as to what this litany of complaints will achieve.

(and as pointed before, statistical comparisons with other carriers would be far more meaningful than anecdotal reports...)

[lumumba]

You haven't had the experience of flying long-haul regularly with Brussels Airlines and believe me it's very frustrating, you shouldn't take it lightly!

And it's very bad for the company.

I'm probably taking a bait I should not, but what do you think near daily updates on flight cancellations will achieve? It's not as if Lufthansa will go and buy a new aircraft to stop the daily reports, even though I do agree it's not a good image for the airline.

Depending on which study you read, up to 80% of passengers fly three times a year or less, and are highly motivated by ticket price. They're not reading this forum, odds are they've not been caught in a cancellation before, and if they have, they'll risk another if it saves them $50 on the airfare. So, again, I am confused as to what this litany of complaints will achieve.

(and as pointed before, statistical comparisons with other carriers would be far more meaningful than anecdotal reports...)

I understand your point of view, but here, we can debate and we can question things, that's the very principle of a forum I no longer travel with Brussels Airlines. However, I understand the frustration of passengers who travel regularly and who suffer from the regular cancellations that have existed for years. For me there is still a mystery here, how is it that this continues?

I feel very attached to Brussels Airlines has a Belgian citizen and I'm sad about this situation.

[nordikcam]

You haven't had the experience of flying long-haul regularly with Brussels Airlines and believe me it's very frustrating, you shouldn't take it lightly!

And it's very bad for the company.

I'm probably taking a bait I should not, but what do you think near daily updates on flight cancellations will achieve? It's not as if Lufthansa will go and buy a new aircraft to stop the daily reports, even though I do agree it's not a good image for the airline.

Depending on which study you read, up to 80% of passengers fly three times a year or less, and are highly motivated by ticket price. They're not reading this forum, odds are they've not been caught in a cancellation before, and if they have, they'll risk another if it saves them $50 on the airfare. So, again, I am confused as to what this litany of complaints will achieve.

(and as pointed before, statistical comparisons with other carriers would be far more meaningful than anecdotal reports...)

I understand your point of view, but here, we can debate and we can question things, that's the very principle of a forum I no longer travel with Brussels Airlines. However, I understand the frustration of passengers who travel regularly and who suffer from the regular cancellations that have existed for years. For me there is still a mystery here, how is it that this continues?

I feel very attached to Brussels Airlines has a Belgian citizen and I'm sad about this situation.

I am not in the 80% of passengers who fly 3 times a year on long haul and who try to save €50. I am very lucky, I know it! When in the same year my company sent me to Toronto 3 times and the SN flight was canceled 3 times, it's anecdotal, I admit it! That professionally it is necessary to shift this and adjust that, modify this and that... it is always anecdotal when we are interested in the reality of the problems in the world! Result today, I no longer fly in a long-haul SN, I am Belgian and I regret it because I was attached to Sabena and the company that succeeded it! For personal life reasons, I do around ten long hauls annually and I no longer risk booking a long haul SN, I fly differently and I recognize that it is anecdotal and every day shows me that I am right...yesterday it was Kinshasa!