Brussels Airlines in 2025

[nordikcam]

SN455 stuck in Bujumbura...

+1 -1 = -515



H.A.

What a Festival! As much as I take SN on a European flight, I think it's madness as a "passenger" to board an SN Airbus A330! Sadness...

[Bel33]

To summarize: SFD out since 5 days - SFF stuck in Bujumbura and SFH out for long time. Normaly, SFJ must go to Sabena Technick for NLG/MLG repair. If you want to be reliable with A333 CEO and fly 9-10 a day, you need a fleet of 15 planes? It's not financially bearable!

[Homo Aeroportus]

It seems there was hope to see Delta back on line but minutes ago it was declared that she could not run SN501 tomorrow.
But then you have a DL to JFK 10 minutes later and two US to EWR.
Having JFK and IAD as designated sacrifical flights is sad but better protect the African services.

H.A.

[lumumba]

It seems there was hope to see Delta back on line but minutes ago it was declared that she could not run SN501 tomorrow.
But then you have a DL to JFK 10 minutes later and two US to EWR.
Having JFK and IAD as designated sacrifical flights is sad but better protect the African services.

H.A.

Stop to fly to the US and concentrate on the African continent.
Also maybe soon you will have AA flying to JFK with a hub there,do you want to compete with them knowing it's a low yield market.
Also the A321 is the perfect match on this route I would think.

[Atlantis]

It is a catastrophic mistake to postpone the nr 12 A330 from 2026 to 2027.
LH anyway will receive several long haul planes next year. They could send 1 A330 to SN.

With Winter coming, typical time for LH maintenance, etc, it will be another difficult year in 2026.

On the other side I agree to leave the US flights to the partners there. When UA will also receive more long haul planes they can go double daily with all their destinations.
But for SN, to have NY is also a premium and prestige destination.

But with DL out, it create more opportunity for AA to enter our market again and not only with one destination.

[luchtzak]

SN455 stuck in Bujumbura...

Hydraulic issue…

[Bel33]

SFF on route to Brussels ... ferry flight

[rwandan-flyer]

To summarize: SFD out since 5 days - SFF stuck in Bujumbura and SFH out for long time. Normaly, SFJ must go to Sabena Technick for NLG/MLG repair. If you want to be reliable with A333 CEO and fly 9-10 a day, you need a fleet of 15 planes? It's not financially bearable!

You have some many costs to cover for only one aircraft depending to many factors (seat configuration, line maintenance, catering, staff working on the aircraft, inssurances, duration of flights, fees at airports, air fuel,.....). If you have more aircraft that you need, you will bleed lots of money because you have a strong chance that some aircraft will spend many times on the ground.

I suggest to some people to watch this video and the article below. Again yes Brussels Airlines has probably some internal problems, but running an airline is not video game, you have plenty cost to cover. And there the problem for SN is that aircraft spend long time in the maintenance due to extra works, staff and aircraft spare parts pbs:

Lack of staff and aircraft spares parts due to the covid. Several airlines are currently grounding some aircraft (Air France**, KLM, British Airways, Kenya Airways, Air New Zealand,...).

** AF332 to Boston was canceled today. Not enough aircraft to replace the aircraft out of service.

Someone there has said that some A330s come from South Asia and they were exposed to salt and humidity during many years. They need extra works.

How many millions does it really cost to FLY an airplane?

In this video, we take an in-depth look at the hidden costs and colossal sums involved in flying an airplane. From fuel and maintenance to crew training, insurance, and airport taxes, we clearly and directly break down how much it really costs to fly a commercial aircraft. With concrete data and illustrative examples, you'll discover why each flight represents a complex financial transaction that goes far beyond the simple price of a ticket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMJP17J ... 9tauxenvol

Eng subs available or English AI voice

Another article published in 2012 from a former US Airways staff. Only 13 aircraft in spare for a fleet of 340 aircraft !!!

How Many Extra Airplanes Does An Airline Need? (Ask Cranky) https://crankyflier.com/2012/02/28/how- ... sk-cranky/

[...]

It’s a great question, and it’s one that’s going to vary by airline. In general, the smallest airlines probably won’t Ask Crankyhave a spare on hand. It’s just too expensive to keep an airplane down, waiting for another to break if you’re so small in the first place. But as airlines get larger, they need more spares.

[....]

Today for instance, we currently have 340 active lines of flying on the mainline operation. Here is what we have built into the schedule for spares:

13 spares total….

2 737’s (covering 300s and 400s), 7 Airbus (covering 319/320/321), 2 B757 (covering 757/767), 1 A330 (covering A330-200 and 300) and 1 EMB 190.

[nordikcam]

It seems there was hope to see Delta back on line but minutes ago it was declared that she could not run SN501 tomorrow.
But then you have a DL to JFK 10 minutes later and two US to EWR.
Having JFK and IAD as designated sacrifical flights is sad but better protect the African services.

H.A.

Of course but Abidjan in Africa (3 days ago ) was canceled and tomorrow it will be Accra and Lomé ( in Africa ) . Today : JFK one more time !

[Homo Aeroportus]

The SN205 that had arrived at Dakar this afternoon has the rest of the service cancelled, DSS-CKY-DSS-BRU.
SN205/206 is operated by OO-SFG.
I cannot obtain more detailed info at this time so we cannot jump to conclusion and the reason may be "just" one of those ground incidents, not the plane's "fault".

Whatever hit the fan, it is been in large quantity lately.
Golf was to operate Accra tomorrow and indeed this SN277 is already cancelled.

H.A.

[Atlantis]

And what about withdrawing from the States and saving the core business which is Africa?

Not a popular decision but it can be for a year till in 2027 2 A330 will join the fleet. UA can take over and they will be more then happy especially about IAD.

[Conti764]

And what about withdrawing from the States and saving the core business which is Africa?

Not a popular decision but it can be for a year till in 2027 2 A330 will join the fleet. UA can take over and they will be more then happy especially about IAD.

IIRC JFK is important for the Africa flights.

[convair]

To summarize: only 6 l/h flights this wednesday.

[nordikcam]

To summarize: only 6 l/h flights this wednesday.

No 7 l/h flights : NBO + EBB + ABJ + JFK + DLA + FIH + the ultimate one DSS/RBO/Conakry I guess ( ACC african destination canceled )

[Amare]

The SN205 that had arrived at Dakar this afternoon has the rest of the service cancelled, DSS-CKY-DSS-BRU.
SN205/206 is operated by OO-SFG.
I cannot obtain more detailed info at this time so we cannot jump to conclusion and the reason may be "just" one of those ground incidents, not the plane's "fault".

Whatever hit the fan, it is been in large quantity lately.
Golf was to operate Accra tomorrow and indeed this SN277 is already cancelled.

H.A.

SFG is AOG due to a hydraulic leak

[lumumba]

Why don't they hire another company to charter an extra plane during these times of crisis?
Profite is not everything?!

[Atlantis]

Why don't they hire another company to charter an extra plane during these times of crisis?
Profite is not everything?!

They lost part of their profit with the long absence of LH due to maintenance and repairs.

LH is not allowing them to charter from HiFly. So why not again Air Europe for some time?

[rwandan-flyer]

Why don't they hire another company to charter an extra plane during these times of crisis?
Profite is not everything?!

They lost part of their profit with the long absence of LH due to maintenance and repairs.

LH is not allowing them to charter from HiFly. So why not again Air Europe for some time?

Your source is from internal memo, or you have read this on internet ? There are plenty AMCI (Aircraft, Crew, Maintenance and Insurance) operators in Europe with long haul aircraft :

Privilege Style, Euro Atiantlic, Maleth Aero, Wamos Air and Hifly. You have also GullivAir from Bulgaria, MyWay Airlines from Gerogia (they are currently flying for Air Senegal), Finnair or even Corsair that can provide AMCI for others airlines, although they are airlines that operate regular flights. But during some periods they have less flights, so they lease aircraft to others airlines.

I remmember that few years ago, AF leased a Privilege Style A330 for their CDG Pointe Noire Luanda route and an Euro Atlantic B777-200ER for their CDG Mumbai, CDG Abidjan and CDG Nairobi routes.

[Atlantis]

The SN205 that had arrived at Dakar this afternoon has the rest of the service cancelled, DSS-CKY-DSS-BRU.
SN205/206 is operated by OO-SFG.
I cannot obtain more detailed info at this time so we cannot jump to conclusion and the reason may be "just" one of those ground incidents, not the plane's "fault".

Whatever hit the fan, it is been in large quantity lately.
Golf was to operate Accra tomorrow and indeed this SN277 is already cancelled.

H.A.

SFG is AOG due to a hydraulic leak

It seems that they could fix it fast. The new departure time is set

[Lux_avi]

Some of you seem to think adding a wet-lease for a short period of time can happen with a simple click on a compter.

You have to think of crew rest, crew positioning, aircraft availability, EU penalties have to be paid in delays as well on top of wet-lease costs.
It simply makes no sense to charter a wet-lease in most of these cases. If a Hi-Fly crew (for example) flies empty to an African destination, they also need to have a crew to fly back. Or the same crew with 12-14 hours rest.