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longwings wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 06:50
lumumba wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 12:04 This is not correct, flights from the European Union to China can fly over Russia, flights from the United States to China cannot fly over Russia.
The US and China recently renegotiated approved routes between the two countries, and no route overflying Russia was included.

On the other hand, Emirates, Qatar, Air India, Uzbekistan Airways, are among the several airlines flying over Russia daily on the way to/from the USA.
lumumba wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 09:25 Yep correct the United States has the balls to ban flying over Russia to the United States, but that's not the case for weak Europeans.
The USA has banned US-registered carriers from operating in Russian airspace, that's it.
What is certain in this whole story is that the United States of America has the intelligence not to put its airlines in unequal competition.
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lumumba wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 11:31
longwings wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 06:50
lumumba wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 12:04 This is not correct, flights from the European Union to China can fly over Russia, flights from the United States to China cannot fly over Russia.
The US and China recently renegotiated approved routes between the two countries, and no route overflying Russia was included.

On the other hand, Emirates, Qatar, Air India, Uzbekistan Airways, are among the several airlines flying over Russia daily on the way to/from the USA.
lumumba wrote: 04 Sep 2025, 09:25 Yep correct the United States has the balls to ban flying over Russia to the United States, but that's not the case for weak Europeans.
The USA has banned US-registered carriers from operating in Russian airspace, that's it.
What is certain in this whole story is that the United States of America has the intelligence not to put its airlines in unequal competition.
US airlines are complaining about unfair competition from Chinese airlines, Russia or not Russia. It's the case since covid when both China and USA have started to put restriction about the number of flights to slow down the spread of covid 19

The problem of American and Chinese airlines – the beginning of the conflict
On the 31st of January, because of the epidemiological situation linked to the spread of the COVID-19, the US government banned the entry of the majority of non-US passengers. They had been on Chinese territory in the last 14 days. The ban did not impose any restrictions on flights from China, but given the residual demand for travel between countries, most US airlines decided to suspend flights to China.

A direct allegation of the recent conflict between the United States and China, this time concerning civil aviation, was the failure of the Chinese Civil Aviation Authority (CAAC) to allow Delta Air Lines and United Airlines to resume flights to China. Even though, at the same time, Chinese airlines could operate in the United States. https://www.shiphub.co/the-problem-of-a ... -airlines/
U.S. airlines lobby for restricting Chinese carriers https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-New ... e-carriers
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rwandan-flyer wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 12:22
lumumba wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 11:31
longwings wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 06:50
The US and China recently renegotiated approved routes between the two countries, and no route overflying Russia was included.

On the other hand, Emirates, Qatar, Air India, Uzbekistan Airways, are among the several airlines flying over Russia daily on the way to/from the USA.


The USA has banned US-registered carriers from operating in Russian airspace, that's it.
What is certain in this whole story is that the United States of America has the intelligence not to put its airlines in unequal competition.
US airlines are complaining about unfair competition from Chinese airlines, Russia or not Russia. It's the case since covid when both China and USA have started to put restriction about the number of flights to slow down the spread of covid 19

The problem of American and Chinese airlines – the beginning of the conflict
On the 31st of January, because of the epidemiological situation linked to the spread of the COVID-19, the US government banned the entry of the majority of non-US passengers. They had been on Chinese territory in the last 14 days. The ban did not impose any restrictions on flights from China, but given the residual demand for travel between countries, most US airlines decided to suspend flights to China.

A direct allegation of the recent conflict between the United States and China, this time concerning civil aviation, was the failure of the Chinese Civil Aviation Authority (CAAC) to allow Delta Air Lines and United Airlines to resume flights to China. Even though, at the same time, Chinese airlines could operate in the United States. https://www.shiphub.co/the-problem-of-a ... -airlines/
U.S. airlines lobby for restricting Chinese carriers https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-New ... e-carriers
Obviously, we know about the conflict, but for the Europeans, it's the same thing plus the advantage that they can fly over China, so this double punishment.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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The Chinese can fly over Russia I mean.
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lumumba wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 11:31What is certain in this whole story is that the United States of America has the intelligence not to put its airlines in unequal competition.
"Its airlines" feel differently when they have to avoid Russian airspace while Emirates, Qatar, or Air India do not.

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longwings wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 21:01
lumumba wrote: 07 Sep 2025, 11:31What is certain in this whole story is that the United States of America has the intelligence not to put its airlines in unequal competition.
"Its airlines" feel differently when they have to avoid Russian airspace while Emirates, Qatar, or Air India do not.
This are not big markets out of the USA for USA airlines,do have to explain everything....vermoeiend!
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This is a topic BRU Summer 2025....

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BRU_AV_123 wrote: 12 Aug 2025, 09:14
Atlantis wrote: 27 Jul 2025, 10:56 Quick reminder, as from next week Friday, 1st Aug, Cathay will start up flights to BRU with the A350
Took the flight for the first time, excellent service, full in Economy, 90% in Premium Economy and more or less 50-60% in Business.

Considering it was a HKG to BRU flight while most of the passengers seem to be BRU based and it is less than one week since the first flight, it seems like a great start (load factor wise at least).
I took this flight three times more in the past few weeks. Premium Economy and Economy were above 95% full on all three flights, Business consistently above 80% and completely full on the last flight. Of course this doesnt say anything about yields, but I find it quite impressive.
Majority of the transfer passengers seem to be bound for Tokyo, Osaka and Taipei (which makes sense as this is now by far the fastest option from BRU).

Curious about the numbers over the slower winter months and whether Thai or Singapore Airlines is suffering from Cathay’s entry into the market. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Cathay increasing frequency next year.

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BRU_AV_123 wrote: 08 Sep 2025, 12:35
BRU_AV_123 wrote: 12 Aug 2025, 09:14
Atlantis wrote: 27 Jul 2025, 10:56 Quick reminder, as from next week Friday, 1st Aug, Cathay will start up flights to BRU with the A350
Took the flight for the first time, excellent service, full in Economy, 90% in Premium Economy and more or less 50-60% in Business.

Considering it was a HKG to BRU flight while most of the passengers seem to be BRU based and it is less than one week since the first flight, it seems like a great start (load factor wise at least).
I took this flight three times more in the past few weeks. Premium Economy and Economy were above 95% full on all three flights, Business consistently above 80% and completely full on the last flight. Of course this doesnt say anything about yields, but I find it quite impressive.
Majority of the transfer passengers seem to be bound for Tokyo, Osaka and Taipei (which makes sense as this is now by far the fastest option from BRU).

Curious about the numbers over the slower winter months and whether Thai or Singapore Airlines is suffering from Cathay’s entry into the market. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Cathay increasing frequency next year.
So far, frequency has been reduced to 3 weekly next summer...

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Miqvell wrote: 08 Sep 2025, 15:14 So far, frequency has been reduced to 3 weekly next summer...
Who? CX or SQ?

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