How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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Conti764 wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 22:18
JOVAN2 wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 21:13 We will soon know more of the Flemish government plans. Expansion of long haul is certainly a priority, and not only to African destinations.
Why would the Flemish government being the majority shareholder change anything? Why would that change operator's minds wether to fly to BRU or not?
Pier A west will come to surface again
Pier A West is in the freezer and will stay there for a long time. M-P Diependaele said nothing about investments, but foresaw the dividents outgroing the interest from in the next few years.
as well as more hi speed train connections to and from major business centers within 500km around BRU.
Again, why would having the Flemish government as majority shareholder change Eurostar/DB/... mindset about making a fairly big detour through BRU? You're just dreaming out loud...
I would hope that the huge buildings of PWC, Deloitte and consorts get a better use than now .
Sure, cut the goose with the golden eggs neck. Compass and Passport probably are two of the most rewarding investments BAC has made the past decades, allowing them to build the terminal expansion and the renewed arrivals hall. No reason at all to use those two buildings for anything else then what they are used for today.
The BRU team will be reviewed with probably foreign and more dynamic managers.
Ah, there you have it... Jovan's tiresome crusade against current BAC management. Arnaut Feist and his team are doing a good job.
Yes, and Arnaut Feist is appointed for another 6 years.

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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Conti764 wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 22:20
Atlantis wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 22:17
Conti764 wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 22:07

I generaly do not trust politicians at the helm of what's supposed to be a private company. We saw BRU making huge steps under Macquarie after quite the standstill and slow pace before the aquisition.
Exactly, I full agree with you.
I believe there is a hidden agenda. Bcs at this point they are shareholder and at the same time also the ruler. Contradictory.
BRU was always used as a play ball. Nothing was taken seriously. I believe that this will be more Flemish against Federal. BRU can only lose in this case.
Just like Conti764, I don't trust politicians who owns but also has to decide
Unfortunately Macquarie didn't step back in. The government taking the majority share in BRU isn't good news at all.
The price was too high for Macquarie. But I can tell you that I really liked them. They brought the fresh wind in the airport with a new vision, investments, new airlines. They were active and knew how to run a business. Since then the figures went up drastically

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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New high-speed rail service to link Antwerp and Brussels Airport with Germany

Deutsche Bahn has announced plans to launch a new direct high-speed rail service between Antwerp and the German cities of Aachen and Cologne. The new service would run twice daily in both directions from 7th September 2026. In addition to linking Antwerp with Aachen and Cologne, the new service will call at Brussels Airport, Leuven and Liège. In Deutsche Bahn’s proposals trains would leave Antwerp at 11am and 7pm, arriving 2.5 hours later in Cologne. Trains from Cologne bound for Antwerp will leave at around 6:30am and 2:30pm.

Source : VRT

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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Miqvell wrote: 17 Jun 2025, 15:24 New high-speed rail service to link Antwerp and Brussels Airport with Germany

Deutsche Bahn has announced plans to launch a new direct high-speed rail service between Antwerp and the German cities of Aachen and Cologne. The new service would run twice daily in both directions from 7th September 2026. In addition to linking Antwerp with Aachen and Cologne, the new service will call at Brussels Airport, Leuven and Liège. In Deutsche Bahn’s proposals trains would leave Antwerp at 11am and 7pm, arriving 2.5 hours later in Cologne. Trains from Cologne bound for Antwerp will leave at around 6:30am and 2:30pm.

Source : VRT
Antwerp - Germany is indeed an option that allows a smooth connection because it naturally skips Brussels.

But, unless Brussels Airport/Airlines/... charters a train to run from Netherlands and/or France directly without calling at Brussels, that's about it you'll see passing through BRU for international trains.

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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Miqvell wrote: 17 Jun 2025, 15:24 New high-speed rail service to link Antwerp and Brussels Airport with Germany

Deutsche Bahn has announced plans to launch a new direct high-speed rail service between Antwerp and the German cities of Aachen and Cologne. The new service would run twice daily in both directions from 7th September 2026. In addition to linking Antwerp with Aachen and Cologne, the new service will call at Brussels Airport, Leuven and Liège. In Deutsche Bahn’s proposals trains would leave Antwerp at 11am and 7pm, arriving 2.5 hours later in Cologne. Trains from Cologne bound for Antwerp will leave at around 6:30am and 2:30pm.

Source : VRT
I hope SN will take the chance and codeshare with DB.

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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"The proposed timetable includes room to later extend the connection from Antwerp to Rotterdam, but whether that will actually happen is still unknown."

Source : Luchtvaartnieuws

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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brabel wrote: 18 Jun 2025, 09:18 I hope SN will take the chance and codeshare with DB.
Lufthansa codeshares already with DB so the chances SN will too are very realistic.

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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If LH will allow codeshare DB with SN. SN might take away traffic away from Aachen and Cologne that normally might transfer with LH

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