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brabel wrote: 23 Mar 2025, 18:22
Atlantis wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 22:39
BRU_AV_123 wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 19:32

Is their enough demand to warrant a flight to Taipei?

Could it be the 4th destination of Hainan (Chongqing)? Saw this passing by: https://www.xiaohongshu.com/explore/67a ... 976340866b
Exactly, it's the fourth destination for Hainan to Chongqing. And the increase is not for NH but also for Hainan who wants to go daily to Shanghai
In the most recent press release of BRU it doesn't say anything about a new destination of Hainan nor an upgrade to daily on the Brussels -Shanghai route.
Both r off the table?
Not off the table but for a later date but still in the first half of the year.

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Atlantis wrote: 23 Mar 2025, 22:14
brabel wrote: 23 Mar 2025, 18:22
Atlantis wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 22:39

Exactly, it's the fourth destination for Hainan to Chongqing. And the increase is not for NH but also for Hainan who wants to go daily to Shanghai
In the most recent press release of BRU it doesn't say anything about a new destination of Hainan nor an upgrade to daily on the Brussels -Shanghai route.
Both r off the table?
Not off the table but for a later date but still in the first half of the year.
So the daily flight to Shanghai is cancelled by HU?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote: 24 Mar 2025, 19:19
Atlantis wrote: 23 Mar 2025, 22:14
brabel wrote: 23 Mar 2025, 18:22

In the most recent press release of BRU it doesn't say anything about a new destination of Hainan nor an upgrade to daily on the Brussels -Shanghai route.
Both r off the table?
Not off the table but for a later date but still in the first half of the year.
So the daily flight to Shanghai is cancelled by HU?
Yes,

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A bit off topic but can we potentially expect a route to Seoul with the merger of Asiana and Korean air in the future?

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At the end of this month, Air Arabia will stop flying from Tetouan to BRU.
In general they will cancel all their 4 destinations from Tetouan.

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Atlantis wrote: 03 Apr 2025, 10:15 At the end of this month, Air Arabia will stop flying from Tetouan to BRU.
In general they will cancel all their 4 destinations from Tetouan.
Oujda as well will end from May 2025

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Also just to add, the own Transavia Holland B738 will be replaced by Summer leased A320 of Avion Express

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One of the unserved destinations is Larnaca. 33.000 pax are currently traveling to Belgium via connecting flights.
Huge potential here. Not only holidays but second real estate and business

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Atlantis wrote: 06 Apr 2025, 23:25 One of the unserved destinations is Larnaca. 33.000 pax are currently traveling to Belgium via connecting flights.
Huge potential here. Not only holidays but second real estate and business
33k pax wouldn't even fill two weekly return flights (type A320 or 738) if you capture all those pax. No potential at all.

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There might be some potential but most probably more on leisure and low yield. Meaning 1 or 2 flights a week at low yields, where high yield passangers requiring flexibility will continue to use other flights.

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koninckske wrote: 07 Apr 2025, 06:51
Atlantis wrote: 06 Apr 2025, 23:25 One of the unserved destinations is Larnaca. 33.000 pax are currently traveling to Belgium via connecting flights.
Huge potential here. Not only holidays but second real estate and business
33k pax wouldn't even fill two weekly return flights (type A320 or 738) if you capture all those pax. No potential at all.
I am not sure you can 'calculate' like this ... In case you open a direct flight you will attract potentially many 'new' pax. For example, with our family and little grand-kids we never will use destinations with connecting flights, too complicated.

In general, markets are created, it is not just a matter of offering flights for people that want to go somewhere. We have a lot less 'liberty' in where we go than we might think ourselves ;)

BTW: two or three flights a week is not too bad and it was offered in the past ...

Just my two cents,
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DannyVDB wrote: 07 Apr 2025, 08:02
koninckske wrote: 07 Apr 2025, 06:51
Atlantis wrote: 06 Apr 2025, 23:25 One of the unserved destinations is Larnaca. 33.000 pax are currently traveling to Belgium via connecting flights.
Huge potential here. Not only holidays but second real estate and business
33k pax wouldn't even fill two weekly return flights (type A320 or 738) if you capture all those pax. No potential at all.
I am not sure you can 'calculate' like this ... In case you open a direct flight you will attract potentially many 'new' pax. For example, with our family and little grand-kids we never will use destinations with connecting flights, too complicated.

In general, markets are created, it is not just a matter of offering flights for people that want to go somewhere. We have a lot less 'liberty' in where we go than we might think ourselves ;)

BTW: two or three flights a week is not too bad and it was offered in the past ...

Just my two cents,
Danny
Very good statement.
Create the market.and fo not get lost in auditors and consultants figures and predictions.
A good quality product at good price, combined with convenience and reliability is key to success.
Cyptus has a lot to offer.

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TUI stopped flying to Larnaca and those were triangle flights most of the time.
The demand must be huge, indeed :? :?

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Or they can make more money elsewhere :D

One of the challenges for Cyprus is that it is quite a lengthy route, so costly ...

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DannyVDB wrote: 07 Apr 2025, 11:43 Or they can make more money elsewhere :D

One of the challenges for Cyprus is that it is quite a lengthy route, so costly ...

D
out îi

Main problem is that Cyprus is expensive. Same for many Greek islands.
Turkey is cheaper. Dame Sun, dame blue sky, same Mediterranean sea. More friendly people in general. Now there is a rush on Turkey indeed.

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Cyprus is not so expensive as you think. The richest part is Limassol, which is called Little Dubai, bcs of the very modern Russian skyscrapers.

But 33.000 people who are taking this route via connecting flights is really big.
BRU has a handful, even not, routes with >100k pax. So, they should be glad to have this as an addition.

The favor of Cyprus also is that it is a year round destination. Nice and soft Winters. And as business very interesting as not tax to be paid

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Larnaca was flown by the previous Cyprus Airways that went bankrupt and even then the route was max 3 weekly if I remember correctly and subsidized by the Cypriot government.

When it went bust Ryanair took over the route again subsidized by the Cypriot government who wanted a minimum of 2 flights a week - which they did until subsidies ran out - it was also the only route out of Larnaca for Ryanair so operationally didn’t make much sense also for just one route.

The new Cyprus airways also tried 2 weekly when they went on an expansion of their Larnaca base and guess what Brussels was cut.


The only way I really see maybe and that’s a big of with a lot of grain of salt is if Aegean starts the route in combination with Thessaloniki to have also that flight do well since it’s a bit of a roulette if it flies or not especially in winter. They do this also with their routes to Frankfurt, Munich, Stuttgart and Düsseldorf with one of their Athens originating flights. Yes there are still plenty non-stop with Aegean to those cities as well. Also the Cypriot community in Belgium isn’t also not that big so it’s difficult to warrant a flight even 2 weekly unfortunately.

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FlyOne launches their 3rd destination, Bucharest, from June 28th, 2x weekly.

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Easyjet operates ITA aircraft in full Italian Blue ITA livery from/to Milan Linate Airport. Is this part of the LH/AZ partnership deal, in which LIN slots have been handed to easyJet with ITA aircraft and crews operating? Why don't operate own aircraft?

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SabenaForever wrote: 13 Apr 2025, 19:07 Easyjet operates ITA aircraft in full Italian Blue ITA livery from/to Milan Linate Airport. Is this part of the LH/AZ partnership deal, in which LIN slots have been handed to easyJet with ITA aircraft and crews operating? Why don't operate own aircraft?

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The opposite, ITA operates 3 A320’s for easyJet.
This has nothing to do with LH, it’s just a wetlease, due to lack of aircraft/crew.

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