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Duke wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 14:48 At least good news that the 40+ B737 Max planes on order by the LH Group seem to be going to Eurowings and not to SN...
But on the other hand, SN will probably not get a lot more new A320neo's than the ones that are scheduled now...
What will happen to the A320's that Eurowings is using now? Will they be transferred to SN?
My educated guess is rather not - but i may not bet that SN could get some 319 from LH, if punctually needed.

But let's try to look to the full picture:

- LH ordered 40 B737-Max8 to be delivered from end 2027 to 2032 - assuming everything goes right
- on top there are additional 60 options, interviews from yesterday see the 737-Max 10 as a option to replace A321, if these options would be converted to orders
- according to press releases, the first batch of Max is going to replace at Eurowings the A319 ( currently 31) and older A320 ageing until 2032 ( 5 pieces)

So basically there is no A320 available from these replacement, but there may be some A319. Here as well to consider that these were used on a lot of short trips with many legs per day, thus at 20 years they may have a lot of cycles and scrap value may be the better economical option.

Nevertheless, i would assume that if SN needs some punctual growth and there is a better case than emplying A220 in wet lease, within the overall phase out plan of the A319 there may be some transfers. But as the SN seat configuration is based on 141 seats, the yonger A319 from Lh may be closer for a quick reutilisation, if the onboarding of the A220 would allow there an earlier phase out ( assumption here - what stays at 319 size is going to be replaced by A223, upgauging goes towards 320).

Thus likely a shift of existing A320s to other brands ( now Austrian may be as well in the replacement game as they would need as well something like 20X A320/321 in the next decade) may come once some options either on B737 or on A320 would be converted nto orders.

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HQ_BRU_Lover wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 16:47 [quote=A321Lufthansa post_id=437880 time=<a href="tel:1736956686">1736956686</a> user_id=34903]
How does the cabin of OO-SNP/SNQ look like? I've never seen a single trip report on a flight operated by them? Were they reupholstered to basic SN NEKs or do they still feature grey EW upholstery?
They have 174 seats iso the usual 180 according to brusselsairport.be, I don't have more details
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Indeed 174 seat as they feature the Lufthansa front galley and 2 propre toilet, so no place enough for a 30th row. And by the way SSY also have another seating configuration with 144 seat.

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crew1990 wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 21:37
HQ_BRU_Lover wrote: 21 Jan 2025, 16:47 [quote=A321Lufthansa post_id=437880 time=<a href="tel:1736956686">1736956686</a> user_id=34903]
How does the cabin of OO-SNP/SNQ look like? I've never seen a single trip report on a flight operated by them? Were they reupholstered to basic SN NEKs or do they still feature grey EW upholstery?
They have 174 seats iso the usual 180 according to brusselsairport.be, I don't have more details
Indeed 174 seat as they feature the Lufthansa front galley and 2 propre toilet, so no place enough for a 30th row. And by the way SSY also have another seating configuration with 144 seat.
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Recently I've found a flight report onboard OO-SNQ. Indeed it has grey NEKs remaining in EW style while OO-SSY has a pure OS cabin.

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D-AIKM ( OO-SFQ) was normally planned to go to Manila for its C-check but the ferry flight was cancelled.
Aircraft will be normally in Brussels in March.

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D-AIKM is in MNL since 30JAN25.
Considering the current needs at SN, will she (OO-SFQ) be put on line as soon as Mx is done or will they take the time to re-work the Cabin Layout to match the SN standard?

SN A333 Cabin Layouts.jpg
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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 19 Feb 2025, 18:14 D-AIKM is in MNL since 30JAN25.Considering the current needs at SN, will she (OO-SFQ) be put on line as soon as Mx is done or will they take the time to re-work the Cabin Layout to match the SN standard?
Assuming a C8 check, they will strip the cabin anyway. So if they have to reinstall everything, I'd guess it'll be the Brussels standards unless there are delivery delays in cabin components. Happens a lot lately.

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Which aircraft will receive the new Atomium livery ? Thx.

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nordikcam wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 09:30 Which aircraft will receive the new Atomium livery ? Thx.
The date I can give you already: 26th March

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Atlantis wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 15:01
nordikcam wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 09:30 Which aircraft will receive the new Atomium livery ? Thx.
The date I can give you already: 26th March
Aviation24.be will be present ;)
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nordikcam wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 09:30 Which aircraft will receive the new Atomium livery ? Thx.
OO-SNM ;)

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is OOSSO leaving the fleet?
On Monday a flight to Cornwall is foreseen.

OOSFP is flying 05/03 to Chateroux for the repaint probably

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Kapitein wrote: 01 Mar 2025, 12:02 is OOSSO leaving the fleet?
On Monday a flight to Cornwall is foreseen.
More probably maintenance. OO-TCQ went back from NQY after OO-SSO landed there.

As far as I know, no more A319/20 will be written off this year. Next one should be from next winter. At that time, the first of the 3 new A320neo should join the fleet.

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OO-SFE is above Bangkok, flying back to BRU I guess...good to know !

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What's happened with OO-SNI ? I guess it did not fly since... months !!

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If the data is correct, OO-SBF, the A320 Neo nr 6, will be delivered in February next year.

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nordikcam wrote: 14 Mar 2025, 14:16 What's happened with OO-SNI ? I guess it did not fly since... months !!
Last flight was 06/02/2025, reason don't known.

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Kapitein wrote: 17 Mar 2025, 13:24
nordikcam wrote: 14 Mar 2025, 14:16 What's happened with OO-SNI ? I guess it did not fly since... months !!
Last flight was 06/02/2025, reason don't known.
Was it not a gear problem?

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Kapitein wrote: 01 Mar 2025, 12:02 is OOSSO leaving the fleet?
On Monday a flight to Cornwall is foreseen.

OOSFP is flying 05/03 to Chateroux for the repaint probably
OO-SFJ scheduled to fly to Chateauroux tomorrow, as SN9901, pesumably for paint job.

The same crew will probably bring OO-SFP back to BRU; its paint should be dry by now ;) . No more EW livery on SN planes, then at last. :)

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Does anyone know how many positions for repainting they have at Chateauroux? The same question for the maintenance facilities in the Philippines ... At a certain point there were 3 A330 in maintenance there ...

Regarding OO-SFQ (currently D-AIKM): it is still in Manila. Will it go also to the paint shop prior to entering the fleet, or is there other work to do on the plane, in Brussels? It is already some time in Manila so they might use April for doing these things, unless it still goes back to LH for some flights ...

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convair wrote: 20 Mar 2025, 01:43
Kapitein wrote: 01 Mar 2025, 12:02 is OOSSO leaving the fleet?
On Monday a flight to Cornwall is foreseen.

OOSFP is flying 05/03 to Chateroux for the repaint probably
OO-SFJ scheduled to fly to Chateauroux tomorrow, as SN9901, pesumably for paint job.

The same crew will probably bring OO-SFP back to BRU; its paint should be dry by now ;) . No more EW livery on SN planes, then at last. :)
Are you sure ? OO-SFJ planned too to fly Dakar today as SN201 ? ( Source BRU Airport ) Hummm ? Does OO-SFP back today ?

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