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longwings wrote: 25 Nov 2024, 06:07 BRU is overall a very decent airport and I’m glad some of the biggest eyesores/inconveniences are fnally being tackled albeit 20 years late (but that’s another story). To make it a really good and multi-modal airport requires state ownership because the structural investments required are beyond the window when private owners expect a return on their investment. If the airport stays in private hands, we will continue to see mostly incremental improvements, but not a true train-plane connection, the end of the Schengen terminal death march, a more convivial central area…

Unfortunately, the state can’t afford to buy, and even should absolutely not. State finances being what it is, they would invest less than a private owner would. Under state ownership, they’d have a ribbon cutting ceremony for a new coat of paint in the restrooms because they couldn’t afford anything bigger…
Danish government bought back shares from another pension fund.
Most airports in the civilized countries of Europe belong to national or regional authorities.

That is only normal with such vital infrastructures like airports.
Belgium can find the money to buy back share and secure + invest in BRU.

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JOVAN2 wrote: 02 Dec 2024, 20:49
longwings wrote: 25 Nov 2024, 06:07 BRU is overall a very decent airport and I’m glad some of the biggest eyesores/inconveniences are fnally being tackled albeit 20 years late (but that’s another story). To make it a really good and multi-modal airport requires state ownership because the structural investments required are beyond the window when private owners expect a return on their investment. If the airport stays in private hands, we will continue to see mostly incremental improvements, but not a true train-plane connection, the end of the Schengen terminal death march, a more convivial central area…

Unfortunately, the state can’t afford to buy, and even should absolutely not. State finances being what it is, they would invest less than a private owner would. Under state ownership, they’d have a ribbon cutting ceremony for a new coat of paint in the restrooms because they couldn’t afford anything bigger…
Danish government bought back shares from another pension fund.
Most airports in the civilized countries of Europe belong to national or regional authorities.

That is only normal with such vital infrastructures like airports.
Belgium can find the money to buy back share and secure + invest in BRU.
Yeah but the Danish government has an order and the cash. They will pay 4,5 billion euro for the shares. The Belgian government has 0 euro on their account. On top of it there are 7 governments. This is wishful thinking.

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Established02 wrote: 09 Dec 2024, 18:47 The new parking building on its way to completion.
Not so fast. The delivery is foreseen for 2026.

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Atlantis wrote: 09 Dec 2024, 21:59
Established02 wrote: 09 Dec 2024, 18:47 The new parking building on its way to completion.
Not so fast. The delivery is foreseen for 2026.
Which levels staff and which levels rental cars?

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Conti764 wrote: 09 Dec 2024, 23:12
Atlantis wrote: 09 Dec 2024, 21:59
Established02 wrote: 09 Dec 2024, 18:47 The new parking building on its way to completion.
Not so fast. The delivery is foreseen for 2026.
Which levels staff and which levels rental cars?
As far as I know the upper level is for staff. Other levels for rental. This for customer comfort.

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Safran Aircraft Engines signed another contract with Brussels Airport. They will build a new maintenance building of 11.000 square meters which has to be up and running my mid 2027. They will hire another 220 positions.

The "module factory" has a capacity of 1.200 shop visits by 2028. Engines will come from other Safran facilities.

Congratulations to both

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Atlantis wrote: 12 Dec 2024, 18:29 Safran Aircraft Engines signed another contract with Brussels Airport. They will build a new maintenance building of 11.000 square meters which has to be up and running my mid 2027. They will hire another 220 positions.

The "module factory" has a capacity of 1.200 shop visits by 2028. Engines will come from other Safran facilities.

Congratulations to both
Great news! Where will this be located?

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Matthias wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 09:57
Atlantis wrote: 12 Dec 2024, 18:29 Safran Aircraft Engines signed another contract with Brussels Airport. They will build a new maintenance building of 11.000 square meters which has to be up and running my mid 2027. They will hire another 220 positions.

The "module factory" has a capacity of 1.200 shop visits by 2028. Engines will come from other Safran facilities.

Congratulations to both
Great news! Where will this be located?
This new building will be adjacent the new Safran LEAP engine maintenance building they inaugurated last June.

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Atlantis wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 10:21
Matthias wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 09:57
Atlantis wrote: 12 Dec 2024, 18:29 Safran Aircraft Engines signed another contract with Brussels Airport. They will build a new maintenance building of 11.000 square meters which has to be up and running my mid 2027. They will hire another 220 positions.

The "module factory" has a capacity of 1.200 shop visits by 2028. Engines will come from other Safran facilities.

Congratulations to both
Great news! Where will this be located?
This new building will be adjacent the new Safran LEAP engine maintenance building they inaugurated last June.
So Building 109 (where TCR is now located) will be demolished?

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Last Monday, Brussels Airport opened 4 new airbridges at Pier B. Those are called MARS, Multiple Aircraft Ramp
System.
This allows to handle 2 wide body, or 4 narrow body or 1 wide body and 2 narrow body at the same location.

This is a huge step forward in the connectivity and Hub functions of the airport as well as comfort for the passengers. Boarding and de-boarding will be much faster.

The MARS are different then the other newly build, single or double bridges, at the B pier.

This means also that more planes can be handled instead of building a new concourse.

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Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 13:14 Last Monday, Brussels Airport opened 4 new airbridges at Pier B. Those are called MARS, Multiple Aircraft Ramp
System.
This allows to handle 2 wide body, or 4 narrow body or 1 wide body and 2 narrow body at the same location.

This is a huge step forward in the connectivity and Hub functions of the airport as well as comfort for the passengers. Boarding and de-boarding will be much faster.

The MARS are different then the other newly build, single or double bridges, at the B pier.

This means also that more planes can be handled instead of building a new concourse.
Any pictures?

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Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 13:14 Last Monday, Brussels Airport opened 4 new airbridges at Pier B. Those are called MARS, Multiple Aircraft Ramp
System.
This allows to handle 2 wide body, or 4 narrow body or 1 wide body and 2 narrow body at the same location.

This is a huge step forward in the connectivity and Hub functions of the airport as well as comfort for the passengers. Boarding and de-boarding will be much faster.

The MARS are different then the other newly build, single or double bridges, at the B pier.

This means also that more planes can be handled instead of building a new concourse.
Atlantis,

almost 100% correct.
We can't handle more aircraft because of these new boardingbridges, the number stays the same.

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Kapitein wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 15:59
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 13:14 Last Monday, Brussels Airport opened 4 new airbridges at Pier B. Those are called MARS, Multiple Aircraft Ramp
System.
This allows to handle 2 wide body, or 4 narrow body or 1 wide body and 2 narrow body at the same location.

This is a huge step forward in the connectivity and Hub functions of the airport as well as comfort for the passengers. Boarding and de-boarding will be much faster.

The MARS are different then the other newly build, single or double bridges, at the B pier.

This means also that more planes can be handled instead of building a new concourse.
Atlantis,

almost 100% correct.
We can't handle more aircraft because of these new boardingbridges, the number stays the same.
Almost, almost 😃😉 Maybe wrongly expressed but the rotation time will be lower.

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Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 16:15
Kapitein wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 15:59
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 13:14 Last Monday, Brussels Airport opened 4 new airbridges at Pier B. Those are called MARS, Multiple Aircraft Ramp
System.
This allows to handle 2 wide body, or 4 narrow body or 1 wide body and 2 narrow body at the same location.

This is a huge step forward in the connectivity and Hub functions of the airport as well as comfort for the passengers. Boarding and de-boarding will be much faster.

The MARS are different then the other newly build, single or double bridges, at the B pier.

This means also that more planes can be handled instead of building a new concourse.
Atlantis,

almost 100% correct.
We can't handle more aircraft because of these new boardingbridges, the number stays the same.
Almost, almost 😃😉 Maybe wrongly expressed but the rotation time will be lower.
And to add also, it double your gate capacity. With the MARS concept now available at BRU, B pier, with changing the ramp around the new gates, new lines, structure, not all parked on the same line, etc they can accommodate more planes at the same time. That's the purpose of MARS.

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Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 21:26
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 16:15
Kapitein wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 15:59

Atlantis,

almost 100% correct.
We can't handle more aircraft because of these new boardingbridges, the number stays the same.
Almost, almost 😃😉 Maybe wrongly expressed but the rotation time will be lower.
And to add also, it double your gate capacity. With the MARS concept now available at BRU, B pier, with changing the ramp around the new gates, new lines, structure, not all parked on the same line, etc they can accommodate more planes at the same time. That's the purpose of MARS.
It looks a lot like the French system (NCE, LYS, ...), which can also be found at CMN or IST: either two single-aisle short-haul aircraft or one long-haul aircraft, which I’ve always found clever, versatile, and space-efficient

Singapore Airlines, in the photo, isn't even using a dual jet bridge, as seen in this official image on LinkedIn. It's sad, some airlines do, others don't.
I imagine the flight wasn't very full to justify using both jet bridges during this off-peak period...

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IronBirds@Brussels wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 21:54
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 21:26
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 16:15

Almost, almost 😃😉 Maybe wrongly expressed but the rotation time will be lower.
And to add also, it double your gate capacity. With the MARS concept now available at BRU, B pier, with changing the ramp around the new gates, new lines, structure, not all parked on the same line, etc they can accommodate more planes at the same time. That's the purpose of MARS.
It looks a lot like the French system (NCE, LYS, ...), which can also be found at CMN or IST: either two single-aisle short-haul aircraft or one long-haul aircraft, which I’ve always found clever, versatile, and space-efficient

Singapore Airlines, in the photo, isn't even using a dual jet bridge, as seen in this official image on LinkedIn. It's sad, some airlines do, others don't.
I imagine the flight wasn't very full to justify using both jet bridges during this off-peak period...
Was wondering the same even Thai is using only 1 and there are full?!
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IronBirds@Brussels wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 21:54
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 21:26
Atlantis wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 16:15

Almost, almost 😃😉 Maybe wrongly expressed but the rotation time will be lower.
And to add also, it double your gate capacity. With the MARS concept now available at BRU, B pier, with changing the ramp around the new gates, new lines, structure, not all parked on the same line, etc they can accommodate more planes at the same time. That's the purpose of MARS.
It looks a lot like the French system (NCE, LYS, ...), which can also be found at CMN or IST: either two single-aisle short-haul aircraft or one long-haul aircraft, which I’ve always found clever, versatile, and space-efficient

Singapore Airlines, in the photo, isn't even using a dual jet bridge, as seen in this official image on LinkedIn. It's sad, some airlines do, others don't.
I imagine the flight wasn't very full to justify using both jet bridges during this off-peak period...
Why didnt they do this for the entire B pier? seems like a wasted opportunity?

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lumumba wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 08:18
IronBirds@Brussels wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 21:54
Singapore Airlines, in the photo, isn't even using a dual jet bridge, as seen in this official image on LinkedIn. It's sad, some airlines do, others don't.
I imagine the flight wasn't very full to justify using both jet bridges during this off-peak period...
Was wondering the same even Thai is using only 1 and there are full?!
There are two different types of MARS gates, both allow the choice between 1 wide body or 2 narrow body aircraft, but only one type allows using both bridges on a wide body.

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