Brussels Airlines in 2023

[oldblueeyes]

So one can see clearly in this situation why the company is doing better with mature technology.

On long haul it simply flies emerging economies and places with limited infrastructure and proximity of spare parts, technology know how etc.

"New" is not always a best fit.

[CRJ 900]

Tomorrow will be the first a320neo flight to Vienna.

Just noticed my return flight from FRA on Friday evening is scheduled with the new A320 NEO. Hope there will be no last minute changes. Very curious to fly this new bird

[luchtzak]

Tomorrow will be the first a320neo flight to Vienna.

Just noticed my return flight from FRA on Friday evening is scheduled with the new A320 NEO. Hope there will be no last minute changes. Very curious to fly this new bird

Feel free to share us a trip report with some images of the interior, if you want. And … enjoy the flight

[DannyVDB]

It seems they start gradually ... One flight a day for at least tomorrow and the day after, if I am not wrong ....

D

[Boeing767copilot]

It seems they start gradually ... One flight a day for at least tomorrow and the day after, if I am not wrong ....

D

This is probably to familiarize the pilots with some technological adjustments on the neo

[Bracebrace]

This is probably to familiarize the pilots with some technological adjustments on the neo

Training world is CBT and simulator. If qualification flights are required, the contrary would be true: the aircraft would fly flat out.

[B737229]

Is CityJet still Operating CRJ9 flights for Brussels Airlines ?

[DannyVDB]

I don't think so. I noticed these flights were already stopped by the start of the winter season and even before.

See:
https://sites.google.com/view/europeanairlinefleets/bel

Cheers,
D

[crew1990]

Is CityJet still Operating CRJ9 flights for Brussels Airlines ?

Only during summer season, there were 2 during S23, there should be 3 for S24

[brabel]

Any new destinations for SN next summer except for Nairobi and Krakow?

[Delta Sierra]

Any new destinations for SN next summer except for Nairobi and Krakow?

There were / are 4 other new destinations in the pipeline

[brabel]

Any new destinations for SN next summer except for Nairobi and Krakow?

There were / are 4 other new destinations in the pipeline

When will they be announced?

[luchtzak]

Brussels Airlines will not relaunch flights to/from Tel Aviv yet, a decision on resumption is still pending. Other airlines within the group will relaunch, albeit only at 30% of the original schedule.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... s-not-yet/

[luchtzak]

Technical glitch in the Brussels Airlines booking system causing false flight cancellations:

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ellations/

[Atlantis]

Any new destinations for SN next summer except for Nairobi and Krakow?

There were / are 4 other new destinations in the pipeline

I hope not only leisure destinations. Real business destinations are needed to keep BRU attractive for the long haul carriers. SQ needs also good transfers as from next year. Transfer figures has to go up drastically. We are far behind other similar airports.

[oldblueeyes]

Any new destinations for SN next summer except for Nairobi and Krakow?

There were / are 4 other new destinations in the pipeline

I hope not only leisure destinations. Real business destinations are needed to keep BRU attractive for the long haul carriers. SQ needs also good transfers as from next year. Transfer figures has to go up drastically. We are far behind other similar airports.

The purpose of an airline is not to ensure transfer pax to its home airport, but to make money.

And the money lies in P2P within Europe.

Just to compare figures: there are 4 Mio pax P2P flying with competition from CRL. That's 12-14 xA320 capacity.
But it's only 1,5 Mio seats flying with the 330 fleet, and this to very niche destinations.

So where is it logical to focus? Leisure or ethnical destinations with solid or low risk (tour operator contingent sale) markets, or looking to grab random passengers to nowhere?

Things may change if there would be a ramp up of certain TATL flights.

[Atlantis]

There were / are 4 other new destinations in the pipeline

I hope not only leisure destinations. Real business destinations are needed to keep BRU attractive for the long haul carriers. SQ needs also good transfers as from next year. Transfer figures has to go up drastically. We are far behind other similar airports.

The purpose of an airline is not to ensure transfer pax to its home airport, but to make money.

And the money lies in P2P within Europe.

Just to compare figures: there are 4 Mio pax P2P flying with competition from CRL. That's 12-14 xA320 capacity.
But it's only 1,5 Mio seats flying with the 330 fleet, and this to very niche destinations.

So where is it logical to focus? Leisure or ethnical destinations with solid or low risk (tour operator contingent sale) markets, or looking to grab random passengers to nowhere?

Things may change if there would be a ramp up of certain TATL flights.

You can fly in Europe also P2P to business destinations and not only leisure holidays.

Foreign long haul carriers are not interested in the leisure destinations of SN but to transport them to more attractive, business destinations they don't fly themselves

A more attractive portfolio of the home carriers could attract more long haul Star Alliance carriers. The majority is transfer and not end station BRU. Just my opinion

[oldblueeyes]

You have to see the whole network.
Within the LH Group, BRU is the hub serving sub Saharan Africa.
ITA would join gradually the Group and Star Alliance and would have approx 25 long haul aircraft plus 321LR.

From a group prospective makes simply no sense to get additional competition between the brands, regardless of what local wishes may find usefull.

SN and OS are more budget friendly airlines - even the upcoming cabin products are described as such "from the shelf".

[JOVAN2]

You have to see the whole network.
Within the LH Group, BRU is the hub serving sub Saharan Africa.
ITA would join gradually the Group and Star Alliance and would have approx 25 long haul aircraft plus 321LR.

From a group prospective makes simply no sense to get additional competition between the brands, regardless of what local wishes may find usefull.

SN and OS are more budget friendly airlines - even the upcoming cabin products are described as such "from the shelf".

What a lack of ambition from SN and/or LH.
BRU and SN could easily take away market-share and PAX from AMS and CDG.
With a location in the center of one of the richest areas in the world and an airport with plenty of room for expansion...

Multinationals go away from Belgium, big international exhibitions (eg Seafood,...
All leave.Belgium..
And you are happy with some new destnations
around Mediterranean ?

[oldblueeyes]

SN is a privately owned company. It's role is to make money.
And it makes no sense to burn money in a fight with AF if you can make easier money on other ways.
BRU won't be a primary hub, so this is the reality.
First "must do" is to learn to be consistently profitable at a decent level.