BRU Summer 2023: news, new routes, airlines

[fcw]

This long list of destinations shows how much Easyjet has missed its establishment in Brussels since only Geneva and Nice remain.

They didn’t “miss” anything, just as FR and VY they just figured out more money can be made elsewhere.

[nordikcam]

This long list of destinations shows how much Easyjet has missed its establishment in Brussels since only Geneva and Nice remain.

They didn’t “miss” anything, just as FR and VY they just figured out more money can be made elsewhere.

Yes they wanted to fly to those cities and finally don't fly to those cities for whatever reason...so they didn't impose themselves on BRU.

[lumumba]

This long list of destinations shows how much Easyjet has missed its establishment in Brussels since only Geneva and Nice remain.

They didn’t “miss” anything, just as FR and VY they just figured out more money can be made elsewhere.

Yes they wanted to fly to those cities and finally don't fly to those cities for whatever reason...so they didn't impose themselves on BRU.

Brussels Airlines is a strong competitor!
That's good.

[crew1990]

This long list of destinations shows how much Easyjet has missed its establishment in Brussels since only Geneva and Nice remain.

They didn’t “miss” anything, just as FR and VY they just figured out more money can be made elsewhere.

Yes they wanted to fly to those cities and finally don't fly to those cities for whatever reason...so they didn't impose themselves on BRU.

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

[B737229]

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

Or just call it the failure of Brussels Airport to attract these kind of companies

[Airbus330lover]

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

Or just call it the failure of Brussels Airport to attract these kind of companies

I totally agree.....
Take a look at Milan, and see who fly there.

[fcw]

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

Fail?? You must be joking! Between 2002 and today easyJet grew from 15 to 350 aircraft, Ryanair from 50 to 500, both posting nice profits year after year and surviving Covid19 without state aid. Not bad for just “trying randomly something and fail” isn’t it?
Once again they didn’t fail, more profitable opportunities arose and choices had to be made. Rest assured: the day they see a business opportunity in Brussels they won’t hesitate a second.

[crew1990]

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

Or just call it the failure of Brussels Airport to attract these kind of companies

It's just maybe not a "failure" but a willingness not to have thise type of company

[crew1990]

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

Fail?? You must be joking! Between 2002 and today easyJet grew from 15 to 350 aircraft, Ryanair from 50 to 500, both posting nice profits year after year and surviving Covid19 without state aid. Not bad for just “trying randomly something and fail” isn’t it?
Once again they didn’t fail, more profitable opportunities arose and choices had to be made. Rest assured: the day they see a business opportunity in Brussels they won’t hesitate a second.

The failure I'm refering too is not about the airline, of course I consider Easyjet and Ryanair as success story. But when it comes to Easyjet and Ryanair at Brussels Airport, yes it's a big fail.

[fcw]

The failure I'm refering too is not about the airline, of course I consider Easyjet and Ryanair as success story. But when it comes to Easyjet and Ryanair at Brussels Airport, yes it's a big fail.

Would you call it a big fail if someone left one company to earn twice or three times their salary, with even better working conditions, in another company?

[Lux_avi]

The failure I'm refering too is not about the airline, of course I consider Easyjet and Ryanair as success story. But when it comes to Easyjet and Ryanair at Brussels Airport, yes it's a big fail.

Would you call it a big fail if someone left one company to earn twice or three times their salary, with even better working conditions, in another company?

It's just wishful thinking for SN fanboys... let them dream

[crew1990]

The failure I'm refering too is not about the airline, of course I consider Easyjet and Ryanair as success story. But when it comes to Easyjet and Ryanair at Brussels Airport, yes it's a big fail.

Would you call it a big fail if someone left one company to earn twice or three times their salary, with even better working conditions, in another company?

Yes it's a fail, Ryanair established a base in BRU thinking they would run the show like in other airport but no, they failed to impose their rules and closed the base. In the case of easyjet in BRU they tried many routes and failed. Even on historical like Berlin and Milan routes they didn't manage to keep them.

Frustrated SN-bashers can say whatever they want about SN but SN still here for more than 20 years, and will be there for many more to comes... let them dream

[lumumba]

The failure I'm refering too is not about the airline, of course I consider Easyjet and Ryanair as success story. But when it comes to Easyjet and Ryanair at Brussels Airport, yes it's a big fail.

Would you call it a big fail if someone left one company to earn twice or three times their salary, with even better working conditions, in another company?

Yes it's a fail, Ryanair established a base in BRU thinking they would run the show like in other airport but no, they failed to impose their rules and closed the base. In the case of easyjet in BRU they tried many routes and failed. Even on historical like Berlin and Milan routes they didn't manage to keep them.

Frustrated SN-bashers can say whatever they want about SN but SN still here for more than 20 years, and will be there for many more to comes... let them dream

Exactly.

[lumumba]

We could call it the "syndrome of Air Belgium" try randomly something and fail.

Or just call it the failure of Brussels Airport to attract these kind of companies

I totally agree.....
Take a look at Milan, and see who fly there.

Milan because Alitalia is weak and in the meantime they disappeared.

[VoloperTe]

Easyjet, Ryanair and Vueling all have failed in Brussels Airport.
Does Transavia have the ambition and desire to grow at BRU? And above all to succeed where others have failed!!

[B737229]

Does Transavia have the ambition and desire to grow at BRU? And above all to succeed where others have failed!!

As Transavia is a Dutch brand , it has a huge potential for dutch travellers
Once flew tfme ex BRU and the flight was 70% filled with dutch , loadfactor was 100%

[Lux_avi]

Frustrated SN-bashers can say whatever they want about SN but SN still here for more than 20 years, and will be there for many more to comes... let them dream

Seriously... how old are you? Nobody is bashing SN here, and I didn't read frustration anywhere.

SN will still be there in 20 years if other companies (or the State) backs them up, yes.
Ryanair & Easyjet aren't anywhere close to needing money from someone else to survive.

Oh, and I'd rather see SN than this FR crap in BRU. Just to be clear.

[fcw]

Frustrated SN-bashers can say whatever they want about SN but SN still here for more than 20 years, and will be there for many more to comes... let them dream

Seriously... how old are you? Nobody is bashing SN here, and I didn't read frustration anywhere.

Crew 1990- you are clearly looking at it from an emotional point of view, a point of view which is seldomly used by managers, this probably explains why you don’t understand the decision making process.
If you have more business opportunities than resources choices need to be made, whether you like it or not. Loco’s are continuously monitoring and ranking opportunities. The bean counters decide to open, close, shrink and grow routes in the blink of an eye. This has nothing to do with bashing or failing it’s just replacing the least profitable option by a more profitable one to maximise profit.
A fail would be buying aircraft to open a base, close the base and park the aircraft in the desert.

[crew1990]

Frustrated SN-bashers can say whatever they want about SN but SN still here for more than 20 years, and will be there for many more to comes... let them dream

Seriously... how old are you? Nobody is bashing SN here, and I didn't read frustration anywhere.

Crew 1990- you are clearly looking at it from an emotional point of view, a point of view which is seldomly used by managers, this probably explains why you don’t understand the decision making process.
If you have more business opportunities than resources choices need to be made, whether you like it or not. Loco’s are continuously monitoring and ranking opportunities. The bean counters decide to open, close, shrink and grow routes in the blink of an eye. This has nothing to do with bashing or failing it’s just replacing the least profitable option by a more profitable one to maximise profit.
A fail would be buying aircraft to open a base, close the base and park the aircraft in the desert.

I do unsertand your point and yes you are right when you say that Ryanair and Easyjet leave BRU because they can make more money elsewhere. Still this is for me a failure because a couple of years ago Ryanair decided to open a base in BRU thinking they could do more money here as well, and at the end it didn't worked as they planed. Opening a base, investing in operational equipment, advertising new routes etc etc has a cost too.

If I take the same anology that you did with someone going to work for another company because he get beter paid and beter working condion, it's not applicable here because in the case of Ryanair, the analogy would be a guy went for another job thinking he would get a beter salary and working condition but finally realised that it wasn't the case and the energy and ressources he puted in this has just vanished.

It's not about beeing emotional, Ryanair and Easyjet are a success story, nobody can deny it, but it's a big failure in Brussels. I think it's pointless to keep arguing on this as we just have different point of view. I do undertand your point, I just don't share it.

[brabel]

I agree that Ryanair failed in BRU.
MOL's plan back in 2014 was to grow in BRU, while killing SN. Both objectives failed. Not only that, but he's the one withdrawing. This is obviously a fail. One can't deny that.


Luckily for him and his company, they are big enough to put their (few former Brussels based) planes elsewhere. So as a full company, he did not fail of course.