Ukraine crisis 2022-2023 affecting civilian aviation

[sn26567]

The Siberian route is also generating a lot of money for Russia! They have a small economy and can’t afford to close the route completely.

Putin doesn't give a damn about the Russian economy now. His primary goal is to install a puppet regime in Kiev. Afterwards he might care about the economy and realise that he has lost more than he gained with his dream of a Great Russia.

[Airbus330lover]

The Siberian route is also generating a lot of money for Russia! They have a small economy and can’t afford to close the route completely.

Putin doesn't give a damn about the Russian economy now. His primary goal is to install a puppet regime in Kiev. Afterwards he might care about the economy and realise that he has lost more than he gained with his dream of a Great Russia.

And.... he will say thats not his fault/problem

[lumumba]

The Siberian route is also generating a lot of money for Russia! They have a small economy and can’t afford to close the route completely.

Putin doesn't give a damn about the Russian economy now. His primary goal is to install a puppet regime in Kiev. Afterwards he might care about the economy and realise that he has lost more than he gained with his dream of a Great Russia.

I'm not sure about that! Let's see how the Rouble reacts.

[ezis_bis]

Estonia joins other EU nations and blocks its airspace for Russian planes

https://news.err.ee/1608513518/estonia- ... ian-planes

[Passenger]

KLM KL-903 Amsterdam-Moscow (SVO) is now diverting to Riga (RIX):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 3#2af28356

[sn26567]

KLM KL-903 Amsterdam-Moscow (SVO) is now diverting to Riga (RIX):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 3#2af28356

I see KL903 returning home, as well as KL1395 which was heading to St Petersburg Pulkovo (LED).

Are the people at KLM crazy to continue flying to Russia?

[Passenger]

KLM KL-903 Amsterdam-Moscow (SVO) is now diverting to Riga (RIX):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 3#2af28356

I see KL903 returning home, as well as KL1395 which was heading to St Petersburg Pulkovo (LED).

Are the people at KLM crazy to continue flying to Russia?

It seems that the Dutch government has decided that it is forbidden to send / to sell aircraft spare parts to Russia. And with some spare parts onboard...

[lumumba]

Bulgaria has also just closed its airspace to Russian planes and Lithuania and Latvia will do the same Estonia closed it already.

[sn26567]

Citing “unfriendly decisions” by Warsaw, Prague, and Sofia in response to Russian aggression in Ukraine, Russia’s federal aviation agency announced that it closes its airspace for passenger airlines owned by companies in Poland, the Czech Republic, and Bulgaria, or registered in those countries.

[sn26567]

It seems that the Dutch government has decided that it is forbidden to send / to sell aircraft spare parts to Russia. And with some spare parts onboard...

That's part of the European package of sanctions against Russia, and not a Dutch Gov't decision. The fear of KLM is that there would be no spare parts in Russia in case of a problem occurring there.

[fcw]

The fear of KLM is that there would be no spare parts in Russia in case of a problem occurring there.

Airlines, including KLM, fly to remote places where there are no spare parts hundreds of times a day.
There’s far more to this story than meets the eye!

[BigJets]

-AeroLogic flight BOX594, Boeing 777-F D-AALP from Leipzig to Tokyo Narita (flying for DHL) made a U-turn north of Moscow and is returning to Leipzig.

-Lufthansa flight LH716, A340-300 D-AIGP from Frankfurt to Tokyo Haneda made a U-turn above Estonia and is returning to Frankfurt.

-Lufthansa flight LH718, A350-900 D-AIXL from Munich to Seoul made a U-turn north of Perm, Russia and is returning to Munich

[sn26567]

-AeroLogic flight BOX594, Boeing 777-F D-AALP from Leipzig to Tokyo Narita (flying for DHL) made a U-turn north of Moscow and is returning to Leipzig.

-Lufthansa flight LH716, A340-300 D-AIGP from Frankfurt to Tokyo Haneda made a U-turn above Estonia and is returning to Frankfurt.

-Lufthansa flight LH718, A350-900 D-AIXL from Munich to Seoul made a U-turn north of Perm, Russia and is returning to Munich

Might be due to the impending prohibition of all Russian commercial flights over EU countries, which will automatically trigger a similar prohibition of EU flights over Russia.

Lufthansa just issued a statement saying: "Lufthansa will not use Russian airspace for the next seven days due to the current and emerging regulatory situation. Flights to Russia will be suspended during this period. We continue to monitor the situation closely and are in close exchange with the authorities".

[lumumba]

Germany will close it's air space to Russian planes.

[TLspotting]

Germany will close it's air space to Russian planes.

Did you mean the European Union ?

[lumumba]

No Germany!

[lumumba]

Germany will close it's air space to Russian planes.

Did you mean the European Union ?

No Germany!
so that makes 6 countries of the European Union which is prohibited this access to the Russian planes.

[lumumba]

Finland will close its airspace too.

[Passenger]

At this moment: reciprocity embargos for:
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Estonia
Latvia
Poland
Romania
Slovenia
United Kingdom

Reuters states that Finland "is preparing to close its airspace". Thus not closed yet.

[rwandan-flyer]

At this moment: reciprocity embargos for:
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Estonia
Latvia
Poland
Romania
Slovenia
United Kingdom

Reuters states that Finland "is preparing to close its airspace". Thus not closed yet.

There are at least 5 Finnair aircraft over Russia right now. Maybe they are waiting for that all aircraft land at HEL.