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Sabena320 wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 13:56
BigJets wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 11:23 Why else would they go through the trouble to remove all the Qatar titles and logos if the aircraft would be fully repainted?
I'm quite sure QR will never let another airline fly with its livery, the aircraft is not owned by QR anymore.
Actually they DO: Hungary bought ex A7-AFF to be operated by Wizz Air, though used for flights for the Ministry for Foreign Affairs and trade. It is still in basic QR livery, of course without the titles. Looks the same like OO-CMA. QR never complained.
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Vic Diesel wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 19:52
Sabena320 wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 13:56
BigJets wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 11:23 Why else would they go through the trouble to remove all the Qatar titles and logos if the aircraft would be fully repainted?
I'm quite sure QR will never let another airline fly with its livery, the aircraft is not owned by QR anymore.
Actually they DO: Hungary bought ex A7-AFF to be operated by Wizz Air, though used for flights for the Ministry for Foreign Affairs and trade. It is still in basic QR livery, of course without the titles. Looks the same like OO-CMA. QR never complained.
Vic- the discussion is about the titles, not the basic colour scheme of course!

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While waiting to be repainted in a still unknown livery, here are the different photos that I could find on the web. All the credits obviously go to the creators and don't come back to me. Someone would say why to quote the reg. there is the european logo and not belgian, is it just provisional ?

Flickr : https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevenpic ... 945921752/ / https://www.flickr.com/photos/191997233 ... 946273353/ / https://www.flickr.com/photos/131221068 ... 946934897/.


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Putain, putain
C'est vachement bien
Nous sommes quand même
Tous des Européens
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OO-AIR, second aircraft for KF Cargo
18/02 0800 - 1200 DOH - BRU - DUB

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Kapitein wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 08:18 OO-AIR, second aircraft for KF Cargo
After OO-CMA, I had expected OO-CGM :D
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OO-AIR (A330-200) ex-A7-AFG was parked at position 695 in Brussels, just like OO-CMA, and departed at exactly 12 noon (11:00Z) and landed in Dublin at 12:15Z.

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The first destination of the cargo operations will be Chicago, from Liège, read more: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/cma- ... r-belgium/

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Hello,

After a long wait here is finally our answer. No white or Air Belgium but the operator's livery. Personally, I don't like it too much, but everyone has their own opinion.

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Looking for a picture we can use to smarten up our future articles!

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Samuel Zerilli wrote: 26 Feb 2021, 09:11 No white ...
No white? That's exactly how it looks: standard eurowhite with titles only! Disappointing...
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sn26567 wrote: 26 Feb 2021, 10:42
Samuel Zerilli wrote: 26 Feb 2021, 09:11 No white ...
No white? That's exactly how it looks: standard eurowhite with titles only! Disappointing...
I meant no white in the all-white sense without any logo / writing. But honestly I hope the others won't be like this but unfortunately I think so...

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On 02/03 OOCAM is returning to BRU around 1100LT

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Whats the goal of those hops in BRU ?
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Acid-drop wrote: 27 Feb 2021, 10:40 Whats the goal of those hops in BRU ?
No idea

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Kapitein wrote: 27 Feb 2021, 08:42 On 02/03 OOCAM is returning to BRU around 1100LT
You mean OO-CMA?(the first one in the fleet, or the 3rd that will come from DOH? :)

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yaropaesmans wrote: 27 Feb 2021, 17:06
Kapitein wrote: 27 Feb 2021, 08:42 On 02/03 OOCAM is returning to BRU around 1100LT
You mean OO-CMA?(the first one in the fleet, or the 3rd that will come from DOH? :)
Sorry, it's indeed OOCMA. Will come from DUB

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Surinam Airways'management has informed its staff that their own B777-200ER (PZ-TCU) will leave the fleet asap. Maintenance fears that an engine needs to be replaced, and that's gonna be too expensive for the airline. "...Zodra zaken definitief zijn, zullen wij dit met u delen. In de tussentijd wordt de Mid-Atlantische vliegroute onderhouden door Air Belgium...", the letter to the staff says: "meanwhile, our Mid-Atlantic route will be flown by Air Belgium".

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Acid-drop wrote: 27 Feb 2021, 10:40 Whats the goal of those hops in BRU ?
Going to DUB, the stop in BRU was probably because the aircraft needed to be officially imported in Belgium (or the EU) before landing in DUB for its paint job. As for the why, could have to do with oddities around the importation or registration of Belgian aircraft, tax issues in Belgium, or in Ireland (eg higher tax on a paint job for aircraft not based in the EU before arriving in Ireland). It could have been a crew change but not likely.

The first flight under a new owner/operator/registrant often has odd stops or unusual routings to gain some benefits around taxes or other regulations. For years, Boeing aircraft sold to a country in Europe (I think the UK) were delivered by Boeing pilots because the final batch of paperwork wasn't signed until the aircraft had reached the airspace of its destination country, yet the crew was under orders not to land until they got the go-ahead from Boeing after all signatures were collected.

Coming back from DUB, I'm going to guess parking is at a premium in LGG so keeping the plane in BRU until first flight makes sense.

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Who owns those four A330Fs after all? Not even CMA CGM.

It's the leasing and financing company AFG Aviation Ireland, a subsidiary of Aircraft Finance Germany GmbH, that completed the acquisition of four A330-200Fs, serials 1688, 1708, 1584, and 1594 from Qatar Airways Group for CMA CGM Air Cargo. All four aircraft will be operated by Air Belgium on behalf of CMA CGM Air Cargo.
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