Still another repatriation flight and/or Cargo?
I would think this is more an 'Air Belgium destination'....
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That's heavy...UJspotting wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 16:19 TUI Airlines Belgium - Coronavirus
Update 27 April 2020
Following the decisions taken by the Belgian National Security Council of Friday 24 April, TUI Airlines Belgium has decided to cancel all its flights until 07 June 2020 included.
Heavy indeed, but "normal", given the travel embargo from last Friday:TLspotting wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 16:22That's heavy...UJspotting wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 16:19 TUI Airlines Belgium - Coronavirus
Update 27 April 2020
Following the decisions taken by the Belgian National Security Council of Friday 24 April, TUI Airlines Belgium has decided to cancel all its flights until 07 June 2020 included.
And Brussels Airlines "maintaining" flights... That's absurd. Air Belgium was first to cancel until June well before Belgian Gov announcement.Passenger wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 16:26Heavy indeed, but "normal", given the travel embargo from last Friday:TLspotting wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 16:22That's heavy...UJspotting wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 16:19 TUI Airlines Belgium - Coronavirus
Update 27 April 2020
Following the decisions taken by the Belgian National Security Council of Friday 24 April, TUI Airlines Belgium has decided to cancel all its flights until 07 June 2020 included.
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Departure was delayed until today 1600LT due to paperwork for China.
Also TuiFly 787 Dreamliner OO-LOE on its way back from Shenzhen to BRU. ETA 14.15 LTsdbelgium wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2020, 20:18
737MAX wrote: ↑
27 Apr 2020, 19:33
Cargo. TUI will perform other cargo flights to other unusual destinations with their 787’s in the coming days/weeks.
OO-LOE scheduled to depart BRU for Shenzhen Bao'an (ZGSZ/SZX) tonight at 20.30 as JAF895F.
Departure was delayed until today 1600LT due to paperwork for China.
Information via Google Flights. Everything is subject to change in these uncertain times...TLspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:24 Just read via UJspotting that TUI is going to lease some aircraft to operate flights during S20.
Wait what ?
Indeed. I don't see why TUI fly Belgium would lease foreign aircraft when they cannot even fly their own aircraft.UJspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:39Information via Google Flights. Everything is subject to change in these uncertain times...TLspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:24 Just read via UJspotting that TUI is going to lease some aircraft to operate flights during S20.
Wait what ?
Nothing is certain in these times... We'll see what the future brings.sn26567 wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:43Indeed. I don't see why TUI fly Belgium would lease foreign aircraft when they cannot even fly their own aircraft.UJspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:39Information via Google Flights. Everything is subject to change in these uncertain times...TLspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:24 Just read via UJspotting that TUI is going to lease some aircraft to operate flights during S20.
Wait what ?
Update: this is data that was added in 'Google flights' before the Coronavirus outbreak. This data from 'Google flights' is incorrect. My apologies!UJspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:46Nothing is certain in these times... We'll see what the future brings.sn26567 wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:43Indeed. I don't see why TUI fly Belgium would lease foreign aircraft when they cannot even fly their own aircraft.UJspotting wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 20:39
Information via Google Flights. Everything is subject to change in these uncertain times...
In normal times JAF would indeed be leasing other planes as they do so virtually every year and on top of that they have the MAX issue which (imho) won't be flying anytime soon. But due to covid-19 we all can expect that plans have changed and most likely no planes will be leased since travelling outside Belgium for non-necessary trips (as are holidays) are not allowed and probably won't be allowed in the upcoming weeks (since in this case it takes at least 2 parties (Belgium and the other country, it's one thing to open Belgium for non-necessary travel but if no other country is opening their borders for foreigners you still can't go anywhere).
My above “...Luckily for TUI Airlines Belgium…” was too optimistic. The annual accounts from both TUI Airlines and TUI Belgium show that a large part of their liquidity (from both) was transferred to / parked at the TUI AG cashpool in Germany.Passenger wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 22:18 Both TUI Airlines Belgium and touroperator TUI Belgium (and a few other TUI companies) have published their annual account 01/10/2018 -> 30/09/2019.
For TUI Airlines Belgium, the grounding of its 737 MAX fleet is shown in the result: 2018-2019 has a € 74,5M loss on a € 823M turnover. Own assets are now negative € 31M, with a reported loss (overgedragen verlies) of € 37,7M.
TUI explains that the 737MAX debackle has lead to more expensive external leases, with a higher fuel cost and a higher cost for EU-Rule 261/2004 (cost for 261/2004 = € 5,5M).
Luckily for TUI Airlines Belgium, TUI Belgium shows a huge € + 320M own assets, with € 251M reported profit.