Boeing 737 (MAX) news

[sn26567]

Four of the world’s leading aircraft regulators have reached a tentative agreement to coordinate in restoring Boeing’s 737 Max to service. European Union, Canada and Brazil would act on a similar timeline as FAA.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ooperation

[Homo Aeroportus]

The Belgian CAA is not overoptimistic about MAX's resurrection :
Currently prohibited until the end of the year. I mean the current year.


A2252/19 NOTAMR A0999/19
Q) EBBU/QAFLP/IV/NBO/E /000/999/5029N00411E999
A) EBBU B) 1906271005 C) 1912302359 EST
E) BOEING 737-8 MAX AND BOEING 737-9 MAX PROHIBITED IN BELGIAN
AIRSPACE EXC NON COMMERCIAL FERRY FLT.
REF THE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY IN EXERCISE OF ITS POWERS IN
ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATION (EU) 2018/1139 ARTICLE 70
CREATED: 27 Jun 2019 10:10:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

TUI's birds will have square tyres by then.

Seriously, the prolonged storage in open air, Belgian air, may have its toll on several systems if they are not operated "once in a while".

H.A.

[sn26567]

Boeing 737 MAX fleet is expected to stay grounded until late 2019 as a result of the latest flight-control problem flagged by the FAA.

Boeing to face class action lawsuit on behalf of more than 400 pilots from a major international airline claiming compensatory damages from the grounding of the B737 MAX fleet.

Turkish Airlines removed all B737 MAX flights from its schedule listing effective 27 October 2019.

[luchtzak]

There are still 185 days between 28 June and 30 December …

https://www.aviation24.be/organisations ... d-of-2019/

[N77014]

I wonder if Boeing provides or pays for replacement planes for concerned airlines. Working for a car manufacturer, in such cases, we provide free replacement cars of approx the same size, whatever the cost. But I can imagine this would cost Boeing billions... Anybody knows what they offer ?

[sn26567]

I wonder if Boeing provides or pays for replacement planes for concerned airlines. Working for a car manufacturer, in such cases, we provide free replacement cars of approx the same size, whatever the cost. But I can imagine this would cost Boeing billions... Anybody knows what they offer ?

Boeing is discussing compensations with its customers on a case-by-case basis. It could, for example, be a discount on the price of future purchases. They try to avoid cash compensations.

[Airbus330lover]

I wonder if Boeing provides or pays for replacement planes for concerned airlines. Working for a car manufacturer, in such cases, we provide free replacement cars of approx the same size, whatever the cost. But I can imagine this would cost Boeing billions... Anybody knows what they offer ?

Boeing is discussing compensations with its customers on a case-by-case basis. It could, for example, be a discount on the price of future purchases. They try to avoid cash compensations.

Personnaly, i should try monetary compensation. Lower price, without vision on the future is pure nonsense

[N77014]

We do not provide cash compensations neither, but try to find a mobility solution for our customers so that they can keep driving and getting from A to B. Boeing could do that as well, but this might cost a fortune, seen the number of planes and duration... But so e.g. TUI pays for the lease of those Max planes + has to charter other planes and pay for them ??? That means Boeing - due to their quality concerns - drives many companies to huge losses ? I would say, unacceptable ! ( but who am I )

[Homo Aeroportus]

for our customers ... getting from A to B. Boeing could do that as well

In the present case it could be for customers going from B to A.


Sorry, was just too tempting.

H.A.

[Boeing767copilot]

Some interesting insights about the problem with the MAX by Gunther Hofman, managing director TUI fly.

FRENCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... x/?lang=fr

DUTCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... in-de-max/

[sn26567]

Some interesting insights about the problem with the MAX by Gunther Hofman, managing director TUI fly.

FRENCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... x/?lang=fr

DUTCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... in-de-max/

I guess this interview was made before the latest problem discovered last week that will delay the re-entry into service of the 737 MAX even more, probably until the end of the year. And also before the NOTAM of the BCAA banning the 737 MAX in Belgian airwpace until year end. I wonder if that might have changed Hofman's opinion. Of course, he has to endorse the decisions made by his company to keep their confidence in the aircraft.

[Homo Aeroportus]

A Norwegian Sweden (DY/NAS - LE/NSW) Boeing 737 MAX with reg SE-RTC, flew yesterday 29JUN out of Gran Canaria and headed back home to OSL.
She left GCLP/LPA in the morning and first flew to LEMG/AGP Malaga. After a 1-hour refueling stop she took off again for Oslo, landing there at 19:17Z

Limited altitude (Max FL200) and IAS (max 240 kts) seem to indicate the crew was prepared to pull out some flaps in case the MCAS got wild. Probably also a prerequisite for the flight plan to be accepted, flying over populated areas.

Wishing SE-RTC a good retirement in Norway.

H.A.

[sn26567]

The Belgian CAA is not overoptimistic about MAX's resurrection :
Currently prohibited until the end of the year. I mean the current year.


A2252/19 NOTAMR A0999/19
Q) EBBU/QAFLP/IV/NBO/E /000/999/5029N00411E999
A) EBBU B) 1906271005 C) 1912302359 EST
E) BOEING 737-8 MAX AND BOEING 737-9 MAX PROHIBITED IN BELGIAN
AIRSPACE EXC NON COMMERCIAL FERRY FLT.
REF THE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY IN EXERCISE OF ITS POWERS IN
ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATION (EU) 2018/1139 ARTICLE 70
CREATED: 27 Jun 2019 10:10:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

TUI's birds will have square tyres by then.

Seriously, the prolonged storage in open air, Belgian air, may have its toll on several systems if they are not operated "once in a while".

H.A.

Well, André Berger, the TUI Director of Operations, just tweeted that "de notam zal onmiddellijk worden ingetrokken als de MAX opnieuw gecertificeerd is. De datum in de notam zegt niets over de termijn dat de 737Max terug commercieel zal mogen vliegen. Dat laatste weten we nog niet."

Which, in the universal aviation language, translates to "the NOTAM will be withdrawn immediately if the MAX is re-certified. The date in the NOTAM says nothing about the date when the 737Max will be allowed to fly back commercially. We do not yet know the latter."

[sn26567]

Delta, the only major airline without a 737 MAX, had a VERY good quarter!

American announced that, for the first time, it is suspending one route (Dallas Fort Worth to Oakland, California) because of the grounding if its 737 MAXs.

Southwest Airlines expects it will have to remove the grounded B737 MAX jets from its flying schedule beyond the current 01 October 2019 re-entry date following the discovery of a fresh safety issue.

SpiceJet will lease more B737 NGs and continue to expand capacity as the B737 MAX remains grounded.

[jmry88]

Hello
sn26567 I have been looking for the official report on why the 737 maxs crashed . Could you post these link/s because we here in parts of the usa have not been able view or read any reports. thanks for your time in advance.

[sn26567]

Hello sn26567
I have been looking for the official report on why the 737 maxs crashed. Could you post these link/s because we here in parts of the USA have not been able to view or read any reports? thanks for your time in advance.

This is a link to the preliminary report of the Ethiopian investigation team: http://www.ecaa.gov.et/documents/20435/ ... AVJ%29.pdf

[Passenger]

Hello sn26567
I have been looking for the official report on why the 737 maxs crashed. Could you post these link/s because we here in parts of the USA have not been able to view or read any reports? thanks for your time in advance.

This is a link to the preliminary report of the Ethiopian investigation team: http://www.ecaa.gov.et/documents/20435/ ... AVJ%29.pdf

You can also find a lot of info and links here:
Ethiopian:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4c534c4a/0052&opt=0
LionAir:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4bf90724/0009&opt=0
737 MAX incidents:
https://aviation-safety.net/database/ty ... -MAX/index

[Passenger]

Unconfirmed story, but from a reliable source:

"...EASA has outlined five major requirements it wants Boeing to address before it will allow the 737 MAX to return to service, according to a person familiar with the matter. One of them, about the jet’s autopilot function, hasn’t surfaced previously as an area of concern..."

More info:
https://skift.com/2019/07/06/boeing-73 ... egulators/

[Passenger]

Gregory Davis (*): "...How the Boeing 737 Max Disaster Looks to a Software Developer - Design shortcuts meant to make a new plane seem like an old, familiar one are to blame..."

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/avi ... -developer

(*) Gregory Davis about himself: I have been a pilot for 30 years, a software developer for more than 40. I have written extensively about both aviation and software engineering. Now it’s time for me to write about both together.

[sn26567]

On 21 December 2018, FlyADeal (Saudi Arabia) wrote: "The Boeing 737 MAX was selected after a thorough analysis of the safety and efficiency of the aircraft by cross-functional internal committees and aviation experts. Our commercial evaluation also confirmed the suitability of the aircraft for flyadeal’s future growth plans".

Today, FlyADeal announces it has cancelled the Boeing 737 MAX 8 order and will buy 30 Airbus A320neo-family aircraft + 20 options for delivery from 2021.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/flya ... 737-max-8/