BRU Summer 2017: news, new routes, airlines

[Kapitein]

Air Canada will use the Boeing 787 as off April 2nd.

[HQ_BRU_Lover]

Are they planning permanent 789 or 788 ops as this could be a decrease in seat-capacity!

A330:
Airbus A330-300 (333) V1
Seats:37 Business 228 Economy = 265
Airbus A330-300 (333) V2
Seats:27 Business 244 Economy 21 Premium Economy = 272

B787
Boeing 787-8 (788)
Seats:20 Business 210 Economy 21 Premium Economy = 251
Boeing 787-9 (789)
Seats:30 Business 247 Economy 21 Premium Economy = 298

[Airbus A330]

Are they planning permanent 789 or 788 ops as this could be a decrease in seat-capacity!

Only during April.

[SabenaForever]

Ethiopian Airlines has made service changes for Europe, including Brussels, Milan, Paris and Vienna. From 06MAY17, Ethiopian’s daily Addis Ababa – Paris CDG service will no longer extend to Brussels.

ET704 ADD2345 – 0600+1CDG 788 246
ET704 ADD2345 – 0600+1CDG 77L x246

ET705 CDG2215 – 0615+1ADD 77L x357
ET705 CDG2215 – 0615+1ADD 788 357

From the same date, Brussels will become 6 weekly operation, instead of daily. Brussels will continue to see 1-stop operation, 2 weekly via Milan, 4 via Vienna.

Addis Ababa – Milan Malpensa – Brussels
ET734 ADD2355 – 0520+1MXP0620+1 – 0800+1BRU 788 16
ET735 BRU2010 – 2150MXP2250 – 0600+1ADD 788 27

Planned 3 weekly Addis Ababa – Rome – Milan service remains unchanged. Overall service to Milan will be reduced from 6 to 5 weekly.

Addis Ababa – Vienna – Brussels
ET724 ADD2355 – 0520+1VIE0620+1 – 0800+1BRU 788 x136
ET725 BRU2010 – 2150VIE2250 – 0600+1ADD 788 x247

Existing Vienna service will extend to Brussels, overall frequency remains 4 weekly.

[sn26567]

From the same date, Brussels will become 6 weekly operation, instead of daily. Brussels will continue to see 1-stop operation, 2 weekly via Milan, 4 via Vienna.

Addis Ababa – Milan Malpensa – Brussels
ET734 ADD2355 – 0520+1MXP0620+1 – 0800+1BRU 788 16
ET735 BRU2010 – 2150MXP2250 – 0600+1ADD 788 27

Planned 3 weekly Addis Ababa – Rome – Milan service remains unchanged. Overall service to Milan will be reduced from 6 to 5 weekly.

Addis Ababa – Vienna – Brussels
ET724 ADD2355 – 0520+1VIE0620+1 – 0800+1BRU 788 x136
ET725 BRU2010 – 2150VIE2250 – 0600+1ADD 788 x247

Existing Vienna service will extend to Brussels, overall frequency remains 4 weekly.

With or without 5th freedom rights between BRU and resp. VIE and MXP?

[CTBke]

From the same date, Brussels will become 6 weekly operation, instead of daily. Brussels will continue to see 1-stop operation, 2 weekly via Milan, 4 via Vienna.

Addis Ababa – Milan Malpensa – Brussels
ET734 ADD2355 – 0520+1MXP0620+1 – 0800+1BRU 788 16
ET735 BRU2010 – 2150MXP2250 – 0600+1ADD 788 27

Planned 3 weekly Addis Ababa – Rome – Milan service remains unchanged. Overall service to Milan will be reduced from 6 to 5 weekly.

Addis Ababa – Vienna – Brussels
ET724 ADD2355 – 0520+1VIE0620+1 – 0800+1BRU 788 x136
ET725 BRU2010 – 2150VIE2250 – 0600+1ADD 788 x247

Existing Vienna service will extend to Brussels, overall frequency remains 4 weekly.

With or without 5th freedom rights between BRU and resp. VIE and MXP?

Tried to book one leg on their website but it's not possible ...

[AntLand]

Hello,

No News about brussels - Shanghai

Timing, frequency, Launch dates, capacity ?

Thks

[sn26567]

No News about brussels - Shanghai

Timing, frequency, Launch dates, capacity ?

It looks like the politicians who announced the route were a little bit too optimistic. I didn't find any flights this year, neither in the Brussels Airport timetable, nor in the Hainan Airlines schedule.

[RoMax]

No News about brussels - Shanghai

Timing, frequency, Launch dates, capacity ?

It looks like the politicians who announced the route were a little bit too optimistic. I didn't find any flights this year, neither in the Brussels Airport timetable, nor in the Hainan Airlines schedule.

It was a joint announcement by BAC-Hainan as well when they signed a sort of letter of intent to launch the route.
I don't know what the exact timing was back then when they announced the firm intent for this route, but if it's delayed there can of course be many reasons: Hainan seeing a slower pick-up in market demand for travel to Western-Europe, Hainan having different priorities for their widebody aircraft (their 787's basically, I would expect that type to be the only viable option to make this long route make financial sense), Hainan being careful in their approach to see what Air Belgium is going to do (no, simply entering the market with the idea of 'we were first, so we are best' does not always work unlike what many here often seem to think), or something else, ...

[JOVAN]

No News about brussels - Shanghai

Timing, frequency, Launch dates, capacity ?

It looks like the politicians who announced the route were a little bit too optimistic. I didn't find any flights this year, neither in the Brussels Airport timetable, nor in the Hainan Airlines schedule.

It was a joint announcement by BAC-Hainan as well when they signed a sort of letter of intent to launch the route.
I don't know what the exact timing was back then when they announced the firm intent for this route, but if it's delayed there can of course be many reasons: Hainan seeing a slower pick-up in market demand for travel to Western-Europe, Hainan having different priorities for their widebody aircraft (their 787's basically, I would expect that type to be the only viable option to make this long route make financial sense), Hainan being careful in their approach to see what Air Belgium is going to do (no, simply entering the market with the idea of 'we were first, so we are best' does not always work unlike what many here often seem to think), or something else, ...

Brussels-Beijing going daily in Summer

[nordikcam]

From 1 May 2017 Etihad will reschedule its BRU daily flights... all departures will switch to morningflights. It seems BRU will lose 1 weekly flight, 7 weekly iso 8 weekly!

Greetings

Source: etihad

1.5.2017 : Finally two daily EY flights to AUH. One at 10.55 with A 330 and an other one at 17.25 with A 320 says BRU website. Error or reality ?

[brabel]

Really looking forward to see new destinations in BRU this year...
Next to the already announced ones, looking forward to (maybe) see:
- Hainan to Shanghai
- Georgian Airways to Tbilisi and Yerevan
- SN adding more destinations (not only touristic islands served once weekly)
- Latam opening its European base
- Air Belgium hopefully kicking of in BRU
- ...

What do you guys think will happen/not happen?

Is Ryanair still going to expand more?
Is easyjet dying in BRU?
Is BRU going to grow again in 2017?
Will SN have been making profit or (small/big) loss in 2016?

Posted this in Jan
So far lots of no's
no Hainan, no Latam, no Air Belgium, no Oman Air, no Georgian Airways, no Ryanair expansion
I really want to have some good news about at least one of the above.

Finally I can also add some yes's:
Yes, easyjet is dying (imo)
yes, BRU is growing again
yes, SN made profit

[Atlantis]

Really looking forward to see new destinations in BRU this year...
Next to the already announced ones, looking forward to (maybe) see:
- Hainan to Shanghai
- Georgian Airways to Tbilisi and Yerevan
- SN adding more destinations (not only touristic islands served once weekly)
- Latam opening its European base
- Air Belgium hopefully kicking of in BRU
- ...

What do you guys think will happen/not happen?

Is Ryanair still going to expand more?
Is easyjet dying in BRU?
Is BRU going to grow again in 2017?
Will SN have been making profit or (small/big) loss in 2016?

Posted this in Jan
So far lots of no's
no Hainan, no Latam, no Air Belgium, no Oman Air, no Georgian Airways, no Ryanair expansion
I really want to have some good news about at least one of the above.

Finally I can also add some yes's:
Yes, easyjet is dying (imo)
yes, BRU is growing again
yes, SN made profit

A lot of those new ones, except Hainan who flies already to BRU, are looking and investigating what is going on at BRU regarding the penalties. To open a new route/line costs already a lot of money, if they also have to pay penalties on it, bcs most of those new companies to BRU will fly with the B787 and B777, than they are not eager to start and keep it on hold.

So, let's wait and see but I can asure you that the marketing development team is doing a great job to all of those new ones to bring them to BRU.

[Kapitein]

1.5.2017 : Finally two daily EY flights to AUH. One at 10.55 with A 330 and an other one at 17.25 with A 320 says BRU website. Error or reality ?

Really strange, didn't find any info on this one.
Maybe something in the pipeline for the future.
Something for the specialists here: wouldn't it be a little far for a A320 to fly AUH - BRU?

[Bralo20]

Something for the specialists here: wouldn't it be a little far for a A320 to fly AUH - BRU?

The range for an A320 is about 3.300nmi while AUH-BRU is about 2.800nmi so it should be able to make it.

[luchtzak]

Something for the specialists here: wouldn't it be a little far for a A320 to fly AUH - BRU?

The range for an A320 is about 3.300nmi while AUH-BRU is about 2.800nmi so it should be able to make it.

I have mailed Etihad to get an answer!

[CRJ 900]

Something for the specialists here: wouldn't it be a little far for a A320 to fly AUH - BRU?

The range for an A320 is about 3.300nmi while AUH-BRU is about 2.800nmi so it should be able to make it.

I have mailed Etihad to get an answer!

Could it be a codeshare/transfer flight via one of Etihad's other partners? E.g. via MXP.
Do they fly to any other EU destinations with A320?
Or just a typo...
Rgds
CRJ 900

[Homo Aeroportus]

Something for the specialists here: wouldn't it be a little far for a A320 to fly AUH - BRU?

The range for an A320 is about 3.300nmi while AUH-BRU is about 2.800nmi so it should be able to make it.

Seems doable but not economically realistic.

A320 ceo range at ISA conditions (+15°C).

A320 neo in same ISA conditions.

Neo is better performing but in both cases there is a payload penalty.
I didn't check the range when taking off at temps higher than ISA but it will be worse of course.

H.A.

[Kapitein]

1.5.2017 : Finally two daily EY flights to AUH. One at 10.55 with A 330 and an other one at 17.25 with A 320 says BRU website. Error or reality ?

It's an error, it will stay with 1 flight a day in the morning.
Confirmed by EY BRU

[SabenaForever]

Given the Qatar Airways booking system, they're upgrading their daily B787-800 flight to a daily A350-900XWB one, starting from june 2017!

Something to look forward too!

Something nice I found on the internet as well is this article:
http://www.andina.com.pe/Ingles/noticia ... 47028.aspx

Now starting on friday 16 june...

Source: Qatar Airways