The Trump administration and aviation

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Air traffic between the US and Mexico grows by 9.2 million since 2010. Is the wall really needed?

http://www.anna.aero/2017/01/31/us-mexi ... -10-years/

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President Trump yesterday morning: "Boeing also is very much involved in new hirings."

Not really: https://t.co/fqwzfhfPhI

Real facts, not alternative facts: Boeing is cutting jobs in 2017!

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Will Norwegian’s low-cost transatlantic service fly under Trump?

As President Trump’s “America First” policies continue to raise alarm bells around the world, the US Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) has spotted a potential silver lining for its members.

The union’s long-running campaign to prevent Norwegian Air International (NAI) from flying to the USA has been reignited by its belief that the new administration’s nationalistic approach could result in an overturning of the December decision by the Department of Transportation to award a foreign air carrier permit to the European operator.

Full story: https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2017/01/3 ... der-trump/

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Ahum. What's that to do with aviation? (which I already wanted to say about the posting being replied to, too)

Exactly. Let's limit our comments to aviation. As other moderators and myself have already done earlier in this thread, we shall delete all non aviation-related posts without warning.

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Travel prohibition for Belgian taekwondo delegation participating in the US Open

The Minister of Sports of the Wallonia-Brussels Federation Rachid Madrane said on Tuesday he learned "with consternation" the travel ban imposed to the French-speaking Belgian taekwondo competitors, as they were about to embark for the US.

"The conditions of this ban are inadmissible," the minister said in a statement. "The athletes learned that they had been refused at the airport on the grounds that they did not have a visa, even though they had valid passports and an authorisation to travel to the US (ESTA). The requirement of a visa is a new requirement which the Embassy had informed the Belgian Association of Taekwondo only the night before the departure of the delegation," he denounced.

Francophone athletes Si Mohamed Ketbi and Mourad Laachraoui cannot participate in the US Open, the first major international taekwondo competition of the year that takes place in Las Vegas from 31 January to 3 February 2017. Rachid Madrane wishes to bring its "total support" to these sportsmen, excluded from a major competition "for reasons not established".

For the Minister, the "intolerable policy" of President Trump and the new American administration in terms of access to the territory, "constructed on mistrust, withdrawal and arbitrary, cannot continue any further."

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Travel prohibition for Belgian taekwondo delegation participating in the US Open

The Minister of Sports of the Wallonia-Brussels Federation Rachid Madrane said on Tuesday he learned "with consternation" the travel ban imposed to the French-speaking Belgian taekwondo competitors, as they were about to embark for the US.

"The conditions of this ban are inadmissible," the minister said in a statement. "The athletes learned that they had been refused at the airport on the grounds that they did not have a visa, even though they had valid passports and an authorisation to travel to the US (ESTA). The requirement of a visa is a new requirement which the Embassy had informed the Belgian Association of Taekwondo only the night before the departure of the delegation," he denounced.

Francophone athletes Si Mohamed Ketbi and Mourad Laachraoui cannot participate in the US Open, the first major international taekwondo competition of the year that takes place in Las Vegas from 31 January to 3 February 2017. Rachid Madrane wishes to bring its "total support" to these sportsmen, excluded from a major competition "for reasons not established".

For the Minister, the "intolerable policy" of President Trump and the new American administration in terms of access to the territory, "constructed on mistrust, withdrawal and arbitrary, cannot continue any further."

The refusal was announced 3 days before Trump announced the travel ban for passport holders from 7 countries.

My guess for the refusal: when checking the final passengers list for that particular flight, the U.S. security service doing that passengers check, saw that Mourad Laachroui is the brother of one of the suicide terrorists from Brussels Airport, 22/03/2016.

My guess: even when Obama would have won the elections, Laachroui would have been refused entry for the above reason (= too close link with a killer terrorist).

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Travel prohibition for Belgian taekwondo delegation participating in the US Open

The Minister of Sports of the Wallonia-Brussels Federation Rachid Madrane said on Tuesday he learned "with consternation" the travel ban imposed to the French-speaking Belgian taekwondo competitors, as they were about to embark for the US.

"The conditions of this ban are inadmissible," the minister said in a statement. "The athletes learned that they had been refused at the airport on the grounds that they did not have a visa, even though they had valid passports and an authorisation to travel to the US (ESTA). The requirement of a visa is a new requirement which the Embassy had informed the Belgian Association of Taekwondo only the night before the departure of the delegation," he denounced.

Francophone athletes Si Mohamed Ketbi and Mourad Laachraoui cannot participate in the US Open, the first major international taekwondo competition of the year that takes place in Las Vegas from 31 January to 3 February 2017. Rachid Madrane wishes to bring its "total support" to these sportsmen, excluded from a major competition "for reasons not established".

For the Minister, the "intolerable policy" of President Trump and the new American administration in terms of access to the territory, "constructed on mistrust, withdrawal and arbitrary, cannot continue any further."

The refusal was announced 3 days before Trump announced the travel ban for passport holders from 7 countries.

My guess for the refusal: when checking the final passengers list for that particular flight, the U.S. security service doing that passengers check, saw that Mourad Laachroui is the brother of one of the suicide terrorists from Brussels Airport, 22/03/2016.

My guess: even when Obama would have won the elections, Laachroui would have been refused entry for the above reason (= too close link with a killer terrorist).

Obama didnt run for president

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Obama didnt run for president

I didn't said he ran for president. I only said "even when Obama would have won the elections ..." Would have won. Voorwaardelijke wijze.

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Chao wins confirmation as US transportation secretary

The US Senate has overwhelmingly confirmed Elaine Chao to be the new US transportation secretary.

By a 93-6 vote, the Senate confirmed President Donald Trump’s choice to run the Department of Transportation (DOT). Chao, who was formerly the deputy transportation secretary from 1989-1991 in President George W. Bush’s administration, is expected to play a key role in Trump’s plan to invest in US infrastructure, including aviation infrastructure.

Following the confirmation vote, Airports Council International-North America (ACI-NA) president and CEO Kevin Burke said, “As a key component of our nation’s transportation system, airports look forward to working with Secretary Chao to address our significant airport infrastructure needs. Modernizing our nation’s airport infrastructure would allow airports to remain powerful drivers of economic growth, supporting local communities through job creation and serving their passengers through an enhanced travel experience.”

Airlines for America (A4A) president and CEO Nicholas Calio said Chao “understands well the critical role commercial aviation plays as a driver of economic growth and jobs across the country and throughout the world.”

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Florida), who voted in favor of Chao’s confirmation, said on the Senate floor prior to the Jan. 31 vote that he had talked with Chao Jan. 30 regarding the issues at US airports over the weekend brought about by Trump’s executive order barring nationals from seven countries from entering the US. Nelson said Chao told him she had not been consulted by the White House before the executive order was issued or over the weekend as airports and airlines tried to make sense of the resulting confusion.



Full story: http://atwonline.com/government-affairs ... -secretary

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Boeing orders to foreign countries worth around US$20 billion could be at risk due to US President Donald Trump’s immigration action targeting countries such as Iran and Iraq.

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Etihad Heads Off Trump Tensions With Pledge Not to Grow in U.S.

Etihad Airways sought to head off the prospect of further clashes over its U.S. expansion now that Donald Trump is president, saying it has no plans to add destinations beyond those already served.

Should U.S. airlines revive claims that Mideast carriers have benefited from illegal aid now that Trump is in the White House, Etihad stands ready to reassert that it has expanded fairly and operates trans-Atlantic services strictly in line with an Open Skies aviation treaty, Hogan said in Abu Dhabi.

Etihad currently serves New York, Washington, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles and San Francisco in the U.S., according to its website, and like other Gulf carriers says the services help support thousands of American jobs while providing competition that brings down fares.

Full story from Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... row-in-u-s

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The CEOs of the three largest U.S. airlines ask to meet with newly appointed Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on supposed subsidising of the Gulf carriers by their governments and to review the Open Skies policy with the Gulf States.

https://t.co/TbF9tQeMHc

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Lufthansa is rerouting to Boston its passengers from the 7 countries affected by the Trump travel ban, since a Massachusetts judge has suspended the travel ban in Boston until 5 February. Kudos to Lufthansa, the only airline so far that has found a way to circumvent the travel ban and is implementing it.

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Trump's ban based upon a lie

Trumps advisor Kellyanne Conway has defended the Trump ban by citing that the reason was because of Obama's previous ban for Iraq citizens after a bloodbath committed by Iraqi illegals in Bowling Green.

After a quick fact check however, there has never been a blood bath in Bowling Green and so the whole story was imaginary. The reason for the Obama ban was purely because 2 Iraqi illegals tried to send money and weapons to Iraq from Bowling Green but were caught and arrested and sentenced life long.

The same woman also claimed that "women would not be raped if they were stronger" and also came up with the term "alternative facts".

It seems now that the Trump ban is also based on her imaginary "alternative facts".

Article in dutch
http://m.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20170203_ ... 7b05894136

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Trump's ban based upon a lie
Trumps advisor Kellyanne Conway has defended the Trump ban by citing that the reason was because of Obama's previous ban for Iraq citizens after a bloodbath committed by Iraqi illegals in Bowling Green.
After a quick fact check however, there has never been a blood bath in Bowling Green and so the whole story was imaginary. The reason for the Obama ban was purely because 2 Iraqi illegals tried to send money and weapons to Iraq from Bowling Green but were caught and arrested and sentenced life long.
The same woman also claimed that "women would not be raped if they were stronger" and also came up with the term "alternative facts".
It seems now that the Trump ban is also based on her imaginary "alternative facts".
Article in dutch
http://m.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20170203_ ... 7b05894136

Get your facts right please. Conway didn't say "a Massacre in Bowling Green", but "The Bowling Green Massacre". That's the name of a FBI-file about a deadly attack in 2011, in Iraq. The two culprits were two Iraqi asylum seekers that lived in Bowling Green - hence the FBI called it "The Bowling Green Massacre".

And to get back on topic: after that Bowling Green Massacre, Obama ordered a six months ban for Iraqi citizens flying to the US. Protest against that ban? None.

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Edited: after some additional reading, I have to adjust the above: the FBI filed it as "the Bowling Green Terrorists", and not as "the Bowling Green Massacre".

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Edited: after some additional reading, I have to adjust the above: the FBI filed it as "the Bowling Green Terrorists", and not as "the Bowling Green Massacre".

I did get my facts right ... the Trump ban based on a blood bath (or massacre as you prefer) is inexistent

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Not very much to do with aviation, but if you want an article in English:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/us/p ... onway.html

"While the Obama administration slowed the visa process, some Iraqi refugees were admitted to the United States in every month of 2011".

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Edited: after some additional reading, I have to adjust the above: the FBI filed it as "the Bowling Green Terrorists", and not as "the Bowling Green Massacre".

I did get my facts right ... the Trump ban based on a blood bath (or massacre as you prefer) is inexistent

Your "facts" is fake news. Your facts are a wrong translation by a Flemish newspaper from a false quote in some of the anti-Trump U.S. press.

Conway was referring to the terrorist activities from mr Waad Ramadan Alwan and mr Mohamad Shareef Hammadi, both admitted to the US in 2009, both condemned in a US Court in 2011 for Al-Qada terror actvities, file known as "Bowling Green Terrorists". As a result of the FBI findings about the two men, Obama ordered a six months slowdown period (= a ban) for Iraqi refugees.

Trump just called a three month ban to adjust where the Obama administration failed, and the world protests. But back in 2011, there was not one single protester against Obama's six month ban for Iraqis. Typical left-populist hypocrisy indeed.

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One got life sentence, the other 40 years.

Source: a local newspaper - 30th Jan 2013:
http://www.bgdailynews.com/news/two-get ... f887a.html

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Edited: after some additional reading, I have to adjust the above: the FBI filed it as "the Bowling Green Terrorists", and not as "the Bowling Green Massacre".

I did get my facts right ... the Trump ban based on a blood bath (or massacre as you prefer) is inexistent

Your "facts" is fake news. Your facts are a wrong translation by a Flemish newspaper from a false quote in some of the anti-Trump U.S. press.

Conway was referring to the terrorist activities from mr Waad Ramadan Alwan and mr Mohamad Shareef Hammadi, both admitted to the US in 2009, both condemned in a US Court in 2011 for Al-Qada terror actvities, file known as "Bowling Green Terrorists". As a result of the FBI findings about the two men, Obama ordered a six months slowdown period (= a ban) for Iraqi refugees.

Trump just called a three month ban to adjust where the Obama administration failed, and the world protests. But back in 2011, there was not one single protester against Obama's six month ban for Iraqis. Typical left-populist hypocrisy indeed.

Right, so you are denying that in the video that is embedded in the news article of the "fake news" she specifically refers to "the bowling green massacre" and not the "bowling green terrorists"? I dont think I need to give an Oxford english translation for the word massacre vs the word terrorist to know that in no way shape or form they are even related and at the same time she defends the Trump ban by saying it is based on Obama's ban for said massacre? That's classic comical Ali stuff right here. With video proof of the words coming out of her mouth still denying it. Than again, it is proven more then enough that trump and its supporters have a clear problem with facts even when they are staring them right in the eyes.

André, this is directly related to the trump ban on air travel, I dont see why this would not be aviation related.