Agree, but the price tag soars from to 380,000,000 USD (747-8) to 2,000,000,000 USD (747-8 Air Force One).sn26567 wrote:Air Force One is not an ordinary 747. It is a VIP version that has a lot of safety features. No surprise that the cost can be high, much higher than Trump's 757.
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Exactly 1,430,000,000 USD. Another Trump lie in order to sustain his policies....Passenger wrote:Agree, but the price tag soars from to 380,000,000 USD (747-8) to 2,000,000,000 USD (747-8 Air Force One).sn26567 wrote:Air Force One is not an ordinary 747. It is a VIP version that has a lot of safety features. No surprise that the cost can be high, much higher than Trump's 757.
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FoxBusiness: "...So far, Boeing is under contract for $170 million, as the company moves forward with the research and development phase of the project... The U.S. Air Force earmarked $1.65 billion to fund the project between 2015 and 2019, and the Government Accountability Office estimated a total cost of $3.2 billion through fiscal-year 2020... A defense official confirmed that the program’s total cost will likely hit $4 billion, according to Fox News."
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Knowing that Fox News = Trump News...
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Boeing just signed a deal with Iran Air for 80 aircraft worth 16 billion dollars.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/iran-ai ... -15-777-9/
The order will be posted on Boeing’s Orders & Deliveries website as contingencies are cleared. Indeed, Trump and the Republicans had vowed to cut all ties with Iran, considered as a rogue state, if they came to power.
To be sure, Boeing added an important sentence that seems to be addressed directly to Trump: "New orders will support nearly 100,000 U.S. jobs". Oh yes, Trump had also vowed to keep jobs in America!
Difficult decision for the President-elect: American jobs or Republican ideas! We'll see....
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/iran-ai ... -15-777-9/
The order will be posted on Boeing’s Orders & Deliveries website as contingencies are cleared. Indeed, Trump and the Republicans had vowed to cut all ties with Iran, considered as a rogue state, if they came to power.
To be sure, Boeing added an important sentence that seems to be addressed directly to Trump: "New orders will support nearly 100,000 U.S. jobs". Oh yes, Trump had also vowed to keep jobs in America!
Difficult decision for the President-elect: American jobs or Republican ideas! We'll see....
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Since Trump is not your average republican, he has been a party hopper for years, I'd bet he goes for jobs, those backwards republicans would go for giving new oxygen to the feud with Iran.
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After Air Force One, the F-35
Trump slams 'out of control' F-35
Donald Trump left the collective defense community quaking in its boots last week after he threatened to cancel Boeing's new Air Force one. Now he's going after another massive aerospace firm, slamming Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) for "out of control" costs.
"The F-35 program and cost is out of control," Trump tweeted early Dec. 12. "Billions of dollars can be saved on military (and other) purchases after Jan. 20."
The JSF is the second big-ticket defense item Trump has slammed in the last week in an apparent campaign to rein in contractors and costly military programs. The tweet comes just 24 hours after Trump hit similar notes on F-35 during a Dec. 11 TV interview.
Full story: http://aviationweek.com/blog/trump-slam ... ntrol-f-35
Trump slams 'out of control' F-35
Donald Trump left the collective defense community quaking in its boots last week after he threatened to cancel Boeing's new Air Force one. Now he's going after another massive aerospace firm, slamming Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) for "out of control" costs.
"The F-35 program and cost is out of control," Trump tweeted early Dec. 12. "Billions of dollars can be saved on military (and other) purchases after Jan. 20."
The JSF is the second big-ticket defense item Trump has slammed in the last week in an apparent campaign to rein in contractors and costly military programs. The tweet comes just 24 hours after Trump hit similar notes on F-35 during a Dec. 11 TV interview.
Full story: http://aviationweek.com/blog/trump-slam ... ntrol-f-35
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The latest tweet of President-elect Trump: "Based on the tremendous cost and cost overruns of the Lockheed Martin F-35, I have asked Boeing to price-out a comparable F-18 Super Hornet!"
That might suggest ideas to the Belgian Government which must make a choice.
That might suggest ideas to the Belgian Government which must make a choice.
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And with the saved money , he will expand the US nuclear capabilitysn26567 wrote:The latest tweet of President-elect Trump: "Based on the tremendous cost and cost overruns of the Lockheed Martin F-35, I have asked Boeing to price-out a comparable F-18 Super Hornet!"

http://news.google.be/news/url?sr=1&ct2 ... t=1&at=dt0
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Can we please keep the discussion on aviation issues? (And yes, the F-35 and the F/A-18 both have nuclear capability).
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Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg said he had a “very productive” meeting with President-elect Donald Trump and was encouraged by progress in talks on the Air Force One replacement fleet and on fighter planes. Boeing produces the F-18, which Trump has pushed as a cheaper alternative to the F-35 of Lockheed Martin.
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Trump wants to impose a 20% tariff on every import from Mexico (to pay for the infamous wall). He probably doesn't know that every single wire on a Boeing 787 Dreamliner comes from Mexico.
Mexican aerospace industry exported for $7.6 billion last year, 90% of it to the US. A 20% tariff would cost the U.S. aerospace industry $1.38 billion.
Mexican aerospace industry exported for $7.6 billion last year, 90% of it to the US. A 20% tariff would cost the U.S. aerospace industry $1.38 billion.
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Maybe the duty will only be imposed on (finalized) consumer products, and not on parts.sn26567 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2017, 23:36 Trump wants to impose a 20% tariff on every import from Mexico (to pay for the infamous wall). He probably doesn't know that every single wire on a Boeing 787 Dreamliner comes from Mexico.
Mexican aerospace industry exported for $7.6 billion last year, 90% of it to the US. A 20% tariff would cost the U.S. aerospace industry $1.38 billion.
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Probably it will only be on a final product. Otherwise Boeing will have to pay way too much taxes on their products and that is bad for the American economy. Something that Trump really wants to avoid.
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Time for the world to launch a 20% tax tariff on all US import.sn26567 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2017, 23:36 Trump wants to impose a 20% tariff on every import from Mexico (to pay for the infamous wall). He probably doesn't know that every single wire on a Boeing 787 Dreamliner comes from Mexico.
Mexican aerospace industry exported for $7.6 billion last year, 90% of it to the US. A 20% tariff would cost the U.S. aerospace industry $1.38 billion.
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Let's limit our comments to aviation, please, without political accents.
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Today an Iraqi family of four (a couple and their two children) with valid US visas was not allowed to board an EgyptAir flight to New York in Cairo after a decree signed by Trump prohibiting the entry into the US for citizens of seven Muslim countries during three months (there is only one exception: diplomatic visas for people working in international institutions).
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And an Iraqi man who helped the US military in Iraq blocked at JFK


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Three "non-aviation" posts deleted.
Pleased to announce that Mr. Darweesh has been released from detention at JFK after the intervention of a House Representative.
“Refugees who were airborne on flights on the way to the United States when the order was signed were stopped and detained at airports,” reports The New York Times.
Sources at Cairo airport told Reuters that five Iraqi passengers (including the family of four reported above) and one Yemeni were barred from boarding an EgyptAir flight from Cairo to New York on Saturday.
Pleased to announce that Mr. Darweesh has been released from detention at JFK after the intervention of a House Representative.
“Refugees who were airborne on flights on the way to the United States when the order was signed were stopped and detained at airports,” reports The New York Times.
Sources at Cairo airport told Reuters that five Iraqi passengers (including the family of four reported above) and one Yemeni were barred from boarding an EgyptAir flight from Cairo to New York on Saturday.
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KLM removed 7 passengers from flights. Reuters just tweeted.