Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

[Passenger]

That's very good news ...
This Police does not understand that if it's only happening in Brussels that the Airport is not attractive anymore compared to the other ones.

It's very selfish to think like that they just want to make more jobs for them.
I don't here very much excuses from them about there mistakes in Mechelen etc...

What are their "mistakes in Mechelen etc" please?

[lumumba]

They had the tip where the terrorist where they received the information but one Police chief did not give the information to the federal police because internally they did not like each other.
It's all around in the news it's not something new!!!!!

Even the information of the French en Belgian police did not work well if they where working together they where catch also before on the border this are unacceptable mistakes ...

There are the improvements that has to be done on the roots.

[Passenger]

In a few days ANPR cameras, those that scan license plates, will be installed and activated around the airport. Temporary controls on the A201 will be abolished, although there will be random checks of vehicles based on information from these cameras. Further more, biometric cameras will be installed as well in and around the terminal, scanning for wanted and possible dangerous persons. What puzzles me the most is how an airport the size of BRU didn't already have ANPR cameras installed, given that a lot of small towns already have these.. At the end of the article, there is the usual reaction of the VSOA union, who are already blaming the government for a possible second attack. Thank God the pre-check was so safe!
SOURCE:http://m.deredactie.be/#!/snippet/57b3e ... 6058ac1cbb

Very good idea to install those cameras and scans.
Very bad idea to announce all those safety and security measures to the press.

They had the tip where the terrorist where they received the information but one Police chief did not give the information to the federal police because internally they did not like each other.
It's all around in the news it's not something new!!!!! Even the information of the French en Belgian police did not work well if they where working together they where catch also before on the border this are unacceptable mistakes ...There are the improvements that has to be done on the roots.

Yes, it was in the news. So it's true. Although... Are we really sure he spoke the truth? Isn't it strange that a police inspector who discovers the getaway address from Belgium's most wanted man, only advises his in-house superior via mail? And isn't it even more strange that such police inspector simply accepts that his superior denies such important info? No, let's remain a bit serious please. When a police inspector discovers something extremely important like that, he will phone the federal anti terrorism unit immediately. And finally: that same police inspector also filed a complaint against his superiors for racism. After investigation by the Comité P, the complaint from the police inspector was not only dismissed, but the Mechelen Police was also praised for their anti-racism policy.

[lumumba]

In a few days ANPR cameras, those that scan license plates, will be installed and activated around the airport. Temporary controls on the A201 will be abolished, although there will be random checks of vehicles based on information from these cameras. Further more, biometric cameras will be installed as well in and around the terminal, scanning for wanted and possible dangerous persons. What puzzles me the most is how an airport the size of BRU didn't already have ANPR cameras installed, given that a lot of small towns already have these.. At the end of the article, there is the usual reaction of the VSOA union, who are already blaming the government for a possible second attack. Thank God the pre-check was so safe!
SOURCE:http://m.deredactie.be/#!/snippet/57b3e ... 6058ac1cbb

Very good idea to install those cameras and scans.
Very bad idea to announce all those safety and security measures to the press.

They had the tip where the terrorist where they received the information but one Police chief did not give the information to the federal police because internally they did not like each other.
It's all around in the news it's not something new!!!!! Even the information of the French en Belgian police did not work well if they where working together they where catch also before on the border this are unacceptable mistakes ...There are the improvements that has to be done on the roots.

Yes, it was in the news. So it's true. Although... Are we really sure he spoke the truth? Isn't it strange that a police inspector who discovers the getaway address from Belgium's most wanted man, only advises his in-house superior via mail? And isn't it even more strange that such police inspector simply accepts that his superior denies such important info? No, let's remain a bit serious please. When a police inspector discovers something extremely important like that, he will phone the federal anti terrorism unit immediately. And finally: that same police inspector also filed a complaint against his superiors for racism. After investigation by the Comité P, the complaint from the police inspector was not only dismissed, but the Mechelen Police was also praised for their anti-racism policy.

I'm very serious...
The tip was not so clear it was a tip and one thing is sure something went terribly wrong in Mechelen(the investigation is still running)and on the French border.

Like I sead before the problem has to be taken on the roots and not at the airport only.

[Conti764]

They had the tip where the terrorist where they received the information but one Police chief did not give the information to the federal police because internally they did not like each other.
It's all around in the news it's not something new!!!!!

Even the information of the French en Belgian police did not work well if they where working together they where catch also before on the border this are unacceptable mistakes ...

There are the improvements that has to be done on the roots.

There you have it... ONE police chief.

[lumumba]

They had the tip where the terrorist where they received the information but one Police chief did not give the information to the federal police because internally they did not like each other.
It's all around in the news it's not something new!!!!!

Even the information of the French en Belgian police did not work well if they where working together they where catch also before on the border this are unacceptable mistakes ...

There are the improvements that has to be done on the roots.

There you have it... ONE police chief.

That's not my point I wanna point out that we need to act at the bottom and not at the end.

To make Brussels easy to use like the other airport around ...

[Hue]

Runway works 01/19 are progressing ahead of schedule. They will be completed before the end of this month. Airlines will be happy to learn Brussels Airport also took advantage of the opportunity to expand the remote de-icing platform on W2. It will accommodate 2 airplanes side by side in stead of 1. This smart move will allow more on time departures in adverse winter conditions.

[jake99]

2 x narrow body only for the moment,widebody will be a second stage (next year?)

Apron 40 will get a new layout for LCC

[Stij]

Does anybody know how long it takes to deice an aircraft? I think it takes at least 10 minutes, so 2 stand mean an aircraft every 5min... still not enough I think...

Apron 40 will get a new layout for LCC

Isn't Apron 40 in front of the hangars? I would have thought Apron 4 would be good for this...
Is this to complement the current LLC stands or a preparation for A West?

Kind regards,

Stij

[jake99]

Yes u are correct they will start on apron 4 and end on +- apron 40
The plan is that there will be 2 lines (2x 8 to 10 aircraft or so can't remember exact)

Line 1 will be a power in /power out stands
Line 2 will be power in/push out line

i assume this is for the A west expansion

[Atlantis]

Yes u are correct they will start on apron 4 and end on +- apron 40
The plan is that there will be 2 lines (2x 8 to 10 aircraft or so can't remember exact)

Line 1 will be a power in /power out stands
Line 2 will be power in/push out line

i assume this is for the A west expansion

At the moment they are doing the construction works at the end of Apron 40 to make it deepterat the end.
But bear in mind that you can't park pax aircraft in service in front of the two technical buildings of JetairPort and SN Technics who are all the time in use. The end of Apron 40 is used by the A330 when they are in maintenance.

It makes no sence to put there only a few LCC aircraft.

Apron 4 is now most of the time empty and can be completely used for LCC operations.

[Inquirer]

Apron 4 is now most of the time empty and can be completely used for LCC operations.

That's the area you see on your right when you drive towards the airport, right?

I've been bussed to those positions and it's a 10 min bus ride away from the terminal at least!

Low cost airlines will hate it when they will be moved out there, but I guess they'll have no other choice, given the extension of Pier A is urgently needed for the hub function of the airport, something which I fully agree is far more important to BRU than low cost traffic.

[Omychron]

Apron 4 is now most of the time empty and can be completely used for LCC operations.

That's the area you see on your right when you drive towards the airport, right?

I've been bussed to those positions and it's a 10 min bus ride away from the terminal at least!

Low cost airlines will hate it when they will be moved out there, but I guess they'll have no other choice, given the extension of Pier A is urgently needed for the hub function of the airport, something which I fully agree is far more important to BRU than low cost traffic.

Correct, it's quite remote.
Then again, a 10 min bus ride isn't that bad, seeing as you can just start boarding 10 min earlier. (Provided a bus is available!)

[SNam]

I am curious to see how the airport will handle this. An FR flight with 25 min. ground time, you need at least 4 busses per rotation to run this operation smoothly. 2 for arrival and 2 for departures.

It is not going to be easy for sure...

[jake99]

Well,next year there will be 30 new electric busses

[flightlover]

I am curious to see how the airport will handle this. An FR flight with 25 min. ground time, you need at least 4 busses per rotation to run this operation smoothly. 2 for arrival and 2 for departures.

It is not going to be easy for sure...

Or with an holding pen you can use the bus that brings departing pax to the plane also for taking arriving pax back to the terminal. So only two needed than.

[Passenger]

I am curious to see how the airport will handle this. An FR flight with 25 min. ground time, you need at least 4 busses per rotation to run this operation smoothly. 2 for arrival and 2 for departures. It is not going to be easy for sure...

Or with an holding pen you can use the bus that brings departing pax to the plane also for taking arriving pax back to the terminal. So only two needed than.

Or the airport could say to such airlines: "sorry, we can't guarantuee 25 minutes, make it 40 please".

[brusselsairlinesfan]

Can someone maybe give a short overview about the works currently being under progress @ BRU? I've heard about the runways this summer but what about the buildings. When is the new Deloitte HQ expected to be completed? Are some works being down today at the former Satellite, Skyhall/"old" terminal? I would be very interested to see some pictures here, if possible... Thanks!

[AIRMARSHAL]

Can someone maybe give a short overview about the works currently being under progress @ BRU? I've heard about the runways this summer but what about the buildings. When is the new Deloitte HQ expected to be completed? Are some works being down today at the former Satellite, Skyhall/"old" terminal? I would be very interested to see some pictures here, if possible... Thanks!

...I would like to add the ApierWest extension and the new terminal of the "future"

[flightlover]

And a quite massive building being build next to the fire department located near the military apron.