Failed coup d'etat in Turkey! What to expect?

[sn26567]

Nevertheless, at the latest Skytrax awards ceremony during the Farnborough airshow, TK got the award of best airline in Europe. They'll need several years before to get that again!

[Freken]

Nevertheless, at the latest Skytrax awards ceremony during the Farnborough airshow, TK got the award of best airline in Europe. They'll need several years before to get that again!

Makes me wonder more and more if Skytrax is still the reputable source it used to be?

About the FAA ban, I don't see it lasting another week. Flights will have to be reinstated sooner than later.

[Homo Aeroportus]

....About the FAA ban, I don't see it lasting another week. Flights will have to be reinstated sooner than later.

Hmm, agree that it could be soon but there is a lot more going on.

As Alexandre de Marenches, former Director of the then SDECE was famous for saying : have a look at a map and you will understand a lot.
Just listing a few points :
* where does the Russian Black Sea fleet based in Novorossiysk pass on their way to their port in Tartus, Syria?
* Nov 2015 shot down of an Su-24 by the Turkish AF. Erdogan : we will never apologize.
* June 27, 2016 : Erdogan apologies to Putin for the loss of the Su-24.
* July 16, 2016 : "coup d'état". Highest ranking officer is a colonel. Completely amateurish attempt. Soldiers blocking the bridges over Bosphorus are 19-20 years old soldiers believing they participate in manoeuvres.
* July 17, Democracy is re-established. +2500 judges are "removed from duty". Erdogan claims plot was masterminded by Fethullah Gülen who lives in exile in USA and wants him extradited for trial in Turkey.
* John Kerry not impressed by Turkish democracy stand.
* Incirlik air base locked down with 1500 US military.
* FAA bans direct flights between Turkey and USA.

Cooling down ? Incirlik "re-opens" this Sunday afternoon.

Mucho testosterone and Joe passenger in the middle of it.

Can only hope for a real cool down.

H.A.

[sn26567]

As ordered by the Federal Aviation Authority in Washington DC, Turkish Airlines had to cancel all its flights from Istanbul to every United States Gateways on Monday and Tuesday, July 17 and July 18.

[sn26567]

Airbus says that Turkey's Pegasus Airlines will take delivery of its first CFM-powered A320neo Tuesday as planned, but the media ceremony has been cancelled.

[sn26567]

How Star Alliance is of no help at all for stranded Turkish Airlines passengers. The sad story of Dimitri who lost a life-time trip to the US West Coast, with all Star Alliance airlines refusing to help him:

http://www.eturbonews.com/72975/help-st ... ur-concern

It makes you wonder which benefits an airline alliance still can provide...

[sn26567]

As ordered by the Federal Aviation Authority in Washington DC, Turkish Airlines had to cancel all its flights from Istanbul to every United States Gateways on Monday and Tuesday, July 17 and July 18.

The FAA now says that the ban extends until the end of August. Ouch!

[Passenger]

As ordered by the Federal Aviation Authority in Washington DC, Turkish Airlines had to cancel all its flights from Istanbul to every United States Gateways on Monday and Tuesday, July 17 and July 18.

The FAA now says that the ban extends until the end of August. Ouch!

The initial NOTAM said "The Justification for this advisory will be re-evaluated by 15 August 2016".

[barnabelg]

How Star Alliance is of no help at all for stranded Turkish Airlines passengers. The sad story of Dimitri who lost a life-time trip to the US West Coast, with all Star Alliance airlines refusing to help him:

http://www.eturbonews.com/72975/help-st ... ur-concern

It makes you wonder which benefits an airline alliance still can provide...

Sorry, but of course Star Alliance (or LH, LX or any other Star airline) are not going to help him without some action by TK first. That is not how alliances work. The ticket is a TK ticket, TK has received the money paid for it and any other airline needs some assurance that they will be paid for their services by TK. TK has to rebook passengers on other airlines (and often members of the same alliances are the first choice for this). If this person was not helped, Turkish Airlines is the only one to blame.

[sn26567]

BREAKING: FAA lifts the ban on flights to/from Turkey. TK flights to the US will resume tomorrow 19 July. The first flight that will depart from Istanbul for the US is TK3 to New York-JFK at 06:45LT.

What a relief for Turkish Airlines, the only airline between the two countries with 10 US destinations!

[Boeing767copilot]

Istanbul, 25th July 2016

As of today, labor contracts of 211 Turkish Airlines employees are cancelled.

Active as of 22nd July 2016, contracts are canceled given the nonfulfillment of performance criterion and in line with the necessary actions we are taking against the FETÖ structure, attitudes and behavior conflicting with the interest of our country and company.

As Turkish Airlines, united with all of the heroic and honorable Turkish people in extraordinary efforts, we have acknowledged our responsibility to terminate the malevolent illegal attempt. Under any circumstances, we have and will continue to fulfill our responsibility to contribute to democracy.

Respectfully announced.

[sn26567]

...democracy.

Respectfully announced.

Democracy?

[Boeing767copilot]

Turkish Airlines' Canceled Labor Contracts.docx

Press release THY

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[nordikcam]

...democracy.

Respectfully announced.

Democracy?

These are the words of Turkish , not those of Boeing767copilote . If Turkey is not yet a dictatorship , it is not a democracy anyway !

[Passenger]

...with the interest of our country and company...

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-int/c ... -statement

Me thinks an airline should know that getting involved this much with politics is not "in the interest of the company".

[barnabelg]

This only confirms that I made the correct choice when I put them on my personal blacklist last week (although leaving their customers stranded as described earlier in this thread was the main reason). Too bad... I rather enjoyed flying with them...

[Homo Aeroportus]

Me thinks an airline should know that getting involved this much with politics is not "in the interest of the company".

Over here we don't realize what companies installed in this country must do to avoid getting into various kind of "troubles".

Seems like Erdogan applies the slogan that Georgie Boy used years ago : "If you are not with us, you are against us".

Even businesses established in Belgium, if not yet known to be owned by pro-Erdogans, must make clear they are not from the "other side". Look at the number of Turkish flags displayed around lately, in an attempt to express apparent support as neutrality is not sufficient.
Last week messages on Facebook exhorted the good Turkish citizens to smash windows of those businesses in Belgium that are held by non-supporters of the "just cause".

Back to aviation : this will probably avoid the inevitable clash between LH and TK within Star Alliance as the last two years had shown that "this world ain't big enough for both of us".
Black clouds over TK I'd say.

H.A.

[sn26567]

Last week messages on Facebook exhorted the good Turkish citizens to smash windows of those businesses in Belgium that are held by non-supporters of the "just cause".

I expect the windows of some Luchtzak members to be smashed in the coming days ...

[Passenger]

I expect the windows of some Luchtzak members to be smashed in the coming days ...

Let's hope that Luchtzak member Hakan is not jailed by the President and Commander-In-Chief H.E. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Because the President of Turkey has ruled that the police may detain people for one month, without having to explain what/why.

[hakan]

I expect the windows of some Luchtzak members to be smashed in the coming days ...

Let's hope that Luchtzak member Hakan is not jailed by the President and Commander-In-Chief H.E. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Because the President of Turkey has ruled that the police may detain people for one month, without having to explain what/why.

Haha Passenger. I am safe and well. Not much happening on Turkish aviation at the moment apart from THY sacking 211 people due to their poor performance. I guess there will be more of that. Turkey is going through difficult time at the moment.