11/05/2016 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

[webstermc]

There seems to be a strike of Avia partner on BRU

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20160511_02283990

[Jetter]

There seems to be a strike of Avia partner on BRU

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20160511_02283990

Another terror attack by BRU's own employees, this is an outrage. Already the 3nd strike since the terror attack by ISIS, the mentality of many employees at BRU is truly horrific. Sad these labor unions and sympathizing employees ruin it for the rest, with all these strikes many people will think twice before choosing BRU. AMS for instance hasn't seen a strike in years. Not with security staff, not with handlers, not with police, not with airline staff, not with ATC. And that isn't because their conditions are so much better, but because they have realistic demands and don't have the mentality to make passengers suffer to further their own interests.

[Passenger]

For the non-Belgians: we have social elections during the next two weeks, and some candidate-delegates feel the need to show the voters they are "fighting" for them.

AMS says "thank you Brussels Airport":
http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/c ... ls-airport

[Stij]

The schmucks!

[sn26567]

There seems to be a strike of Avia partner on BRU

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20160511_02283990

In English: https://www.aviation24.be/airports/brussel ... -handlers/

[barnabelg]

I was about to give BRU another try for some bookings that I had to make for next month, but I’m afraid the place is just hopeless...

[KriVa]

Might I offer the same advice I gave to different people during the so-called strikes at Belgocontrol (not that there ever were any strikes, but that aside)?
If you don't know the full story from both sides of the fence, as it actually happens, and not as reported by the media, don't draw conclusions... Chances are extremely high your view will be distorted.

[Jetter]

Might I offer the same advice I gave to different people during the so-called strikes at Belgocontrol (not that there ever were any strikes, but that aside)?
If you don't know the full story from both sides of the fence, as it actually happens, and not as reported by the media, don't draw conclusions... Chances are extremely high your view will be distorted.

May I offer the same reply as with the Belgocontrol strikes? It's up to both sides to tell their side. I listened to the side of the unions, their story was that "staff didn't feel appreciated enough after the terror attacks, and an error was made with the calculation of the salaries". That's what I based my opinion on, you don't let passengers suffer because you don't feel 'appreciated' enough!

Also, if you don't feel appreciated, why don't find another job? We live in a free world, nobody if forcing you to work at BRU.

[Passenger]

Might I offer the same advice I gave to different people during the so-called strikes at Belgocontrol (not that there ever were any strikes, but that aside)?
If you don't know the full story from both sides of the fence, as it actually happens, and not as reported by the media, don't draw conclusions... Chances are extremely high your view will be distorted.

So far, the media have only reported the views from the trade unions. And even if their arguments are all true (which will probably not be the case, as you state), it is no reason to go on strike. You do not strike when your working place (= Brussels Airport) is recovering from the most terrible attack it ever had. You do not go on strike when there are errors in your salary. You contact the HR department, and you ask for an urgent correction.

But OK, let's wait till we hear what management/ownership will tell about this strike.

[Passenger]

SK-4745 / SAS- 4745 (LN-RPB) Oslo-Brussels diverted to AMS.

[KriVa]

Jetter: You make it seem as if everyone has a choice in terms of which job they take. Some people don't really have a choice, and can't afford to leave if they don't want to get kicked out of their house by the end of the month.
Do you really think everybody who worked this hard during the weeks after the attacks is doing this just because they want to play a little game, because they feel like hurting BRU? I have the feeling that there just might be a legitimate reason for these strikes.
I don't know the full story, so I can't comment either way, but I'm not basing any conclusions on anything I hear in the media, seeing their "outstanding" coverage on matters I happen to know a lot about.
Draw your own conclusions.

[Jetter]

You make it seem as if everyone has a choice in terms of which job they take. Some people don't really have a choice, and can't afford to leave if they don't want to get kicked out of their house by the end of the month.

If no other company is willing to pay these employees what Aviapartner is paying as you imply by them 'not having a choice as they have to pay their mortgage', apparently they get appreciated very well in monetary terms.

Do you really think everybody who worked this hard during the weeks after the attacks is doing this just because they want to play a little game, because they feel like hurting BRU? I have the feeling that there just might be a legitimate reason for these strikes.

No, I think they have a misplaced sense of entitlement and utter disregard for interests other than their own.

I don't know the full story, so I can't comment either way, but I'm not basing any conclusions on anything I hear in the media, seeing their "outstanding" coverage on matters I happen to know a lot about.
Draw your own conclusions.

To enable you to comment I'll refer you to the words of the union itself: https://acv-transcom.acv-online.be/acv- ... eveel.html

[convair]

Jetter: You make it seem as if everyone has a choice in terms of which job they take. Some people don't really have a choice, and can't afford to leave if they don't want to get kicked out of their house by the end of the month.
Do you really think everybody who worked this hard during the weeks after the attacks is doing this just because they want to play a little game, because they feel like hurting BRU? I have the feeling that there just might be a legitimate reason for these strikes.
I don't know the full story, so I can't comment either way, but I'm not basing any conclusions on anything I hear in the media, seeing their "outstanding" coverage on matters I happen to know a lot about.
Draw your own conclusions.

I understand your point Kriva. But the reason seems to be an error or errors in the salaries calculation!!!

And it's obvious we have a wildcat strike here; the reason must then be a terribly important and urgent matter, otherwise a wildcat strike can never be justified imho.

[thalenoi]

Well for September and later 2016 I have booked 2 BKK-AMS tickets.
Also for September a BRU-LHR-YUL return, unfortunately, can't change.
And 29 may a BRU-BKK, I really consider departing from CDG QR40 and QR836 2x A380 (booked on QR836 anyway) although QR B787 ex BRU in J is very nice...
I don't want to see BRU airport anymore....

[KriVa]

The reason is not the mistake in the salaries. That was only the last straw. The reasons as to why the employees have had enough, have been lingering on for longer than just these last few weeks.
I won't claim to be happy about it either. The reputation of BRU won't exactly improve. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one to condone strikes just for the hell of it. However, I am a firm believer that strikes could be warranted from time to time, under the right conditions.
Having talked to a few people who work for handling companies before, I didn't exactly sense entitlement, desparation would sometimes be the more appropriate term.

[Conti764]

If no other company is willing to pay these employees what Aviapartner is paying as you imply by them 'not having a choice as they have to pay their mortgage', apparently they get appreciated very well in monetary terms.

I am not judging on this strike, but I have a strong impression that you lost reality a bit, no?

[Conti764]

Half a day after the strike started, there is an agreement... Djeez, was it that hard to talk first, and act later? Fools...

[KriVa]

Let's just say, it's not always that easy...

[sean1982]

Let's just say, it's not always that easy...

For people who just want to go on a much needed business trip or a well deserved holiday it doesnt matter what either side of the fence says. BRU is just not reliable at the moment for people who are booking

[sn26567]

At least there is an agreement and people are back to work after only a few hours of strike. But what a terrible damage to the reputation of BRU! If all unions continue like this (airport police, ATC, handlers, ...), very soon they will no longer have any members, because the jobs will have moved elsewhere, as we could already read from disgruntled passengers.

A wildcat strike is NEVER warranted. There are legal procedures for workers to go on strike, and one of them is a notice, several days in advance. And during that notice, management and unions still have time to discuss and find a solution.

But I guess that the social elections are taking their toll: each union wants to show that they are the best in defending their members. When those members will have lost their jobs, they might not be so proud anymore of their union.