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Please stop with those ridiculous numbers, or show us a proof (other than a press article)...Jetter wrote:That's a good question and I have a good answer: say they have been flexible for 7 years, than the average ATCO got 1 million euro's in return.
Will Belgocontrol FAQ suffice? https://www.belgocontrol.be/faq-atc: "After you succeed the unit training your salary will amount to at least € 6.200 gross/month." 6.200*13=80.600. And that's the very minimum, so the 6-figures is a realistic number for most staff.Nevihta wrote:Please stop with those ridiculous numbers, or show us a proof (other than a press article)...Jetter wrote:That's a good question and I have a good answer: say they have been flexible for 7 years, than the average ATCO got 1 million euro's in return.
Regarding flexibility... when you're at your maximum, there's not much more you can do...
Hence I said 'most'. De Tijd mentioned that the average is E 144k, and I see no reason to doubt that number. Either way it's a lot.jan_olieslagers wrote:... and 7 * 80.600 does not make a million, not by a long way. Genen toogpraat, aub. Even if the 6.200 is indeed a minimum (and a nice one, one must admit), we know nothing about the effective average figures.
ATC staff don't get paid like all employees, hence something more can be expected where it comes to work ethic. The mentality of 'I only do what's in the contract and not a step more' doesn't fly (pun intended) with other 6-figure jobs either. That's exactly the sense of entitlement that brought so much hate upon them; they want to get payed like CEO's, but have the work ethic of a bus driver.Besides, I understood ATC staff, like all employees, get their pay for doing their job, as defined in the contract; not for being "flexible" in the interpretation of the terms of that contract.
Try this: you're asked to come to work for a few hours on a day that you had planned to cut the green green grass at home. If you say no, you know that your airport has to close, leaving a few thousand passengers stranded, causing damage of a few hundred thousands of real Euro's for both airlines and passengers. So you tell your wife that you will cut the grass later that afternoon i.s.o. early morning. That's "flexibility".Nevihta wrote:Regarding flexibility... when you're at your maximum, there's not much more you can do...
Just like Manuel from Fawlty Towers: he also knows nothing (but he is from Barcelona). Some 20 different news sites have recently published more then enough details about the salary and bonuses. Did you really missed all of them?jan_olieslagers wrote:... and 7 * 80.600 does not make a million, not by a long way. Genen toogpraat, aub. Even if the 6.200 is indeed a minimum (and a nice one, one must admit), we know nothing about the effective average figures.
80%? We read in the press that it is 80 ATCOs, out of a total of about 250...Jetter wrote:Thats what I thought, but Nevihta (who seems ATCO himself) mentioned it is 80%.But the Guild does not stand for a majority of ATC staff, not by a long way.
Nevihta wrote:Ah, by the way, about 80% of ATCOs are in the Guild.
Ha, so my informations are reliable ?Jetter wrote:Nevihta wrote:Ah, by the way, about 80% of ATCOs are in the Guild.
De Tijd mentioned 80 members, and you see a reason to doubt that number...Jetter wrote:De Tijd mentioned that the average is E 144k, and I see no reason to doubt that number
