Ryanair in 2015

[sn26567]

Ryanair has applied for slots at Paris Roissy and Orly airports

Ryanair has applied for slots at Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle and Orly airports and is willing to cooperate with long-haul traditional airlines, chief executive Michael O'Leary told French financial daily Les Echos on Wednesday (30 September).

O'Leary said the new slots, if approved, would not be at the expense of Beauvais airport north of Paris and added that Ryanair also has projects at Lyon, Toulouse, Bordeaux and several other French airports.

"For now it is not a matter of opening new bases there but new lines," he was quoted as saying.

Asked about cooperation with traditional airlines, O'Leary said Ryanair wants to develop its presence in major airports to capture new customers and because big airports are inviting Ryanair to come.

"It would be perfectly logical for long-haul airlines like Air France to ask for our help to reduce their losses on short-haul flights," he said, adding that Ryanair flights could feed Air France at Roissy, IAG flights at Gatwick or Lufthansa flights in Berlin.

"We have already had discussions about this topic with IAG, TAP, Aer Lingus, Virgin Atlantic, Norwegian. I think we will be able to announce a few deals next summer," he said.

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/id ... 0?irpc=932

[Homo Aeroportus]

Ryanair has applied for slots at Paris Roissy and Orly airports
....
"It would be perfectly logical for Air France to ask for our help"

I hope that Alexandre Marie Henri de Juniac has Mickey's phone number.


H.A.

[Passenger]

Ryanair has applied for slots at Paris Roissy and Orly airports

Ryanair has applied for slots at Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle and Orly airports and is willing to cooperate with long-haul traditional airlines, chief executive Michael O'Leary told French financial daily Les Echos on Wednesday (30 September). O'Leary said the new slots, if approved, would not be at the expense of Beauvais airport north of Paris and added that Ryanair also has projects at Lyon, Toulouse, Bordeaux and several other French airports. "For now it is not a matter of opening new bases there but new lines," he was quoted as saying. Asked about cooperation with traditional airlines, O'Leary said Ryanair wants to develop its presence in major airports to capture new customers and because big airports are inviting Ryanair to come. "It would be perfectly logical for long-haul airlines like Air France to ask for our help to reduce their losses on short-haul flights," he said, adding that Ryanair flights could feed Air France at Roissy, IAG flights at Gatwick or Lufthansa flights in Berlin. "We have already had discussions about this topic with IAG, TAP, Aer Lingus, Virgin Atlantic, Norwegian. I think we will be able to announce a few deals next summer," he said.
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/id ... 0?irpc=932

A lie, repeated 100 times, remains a lie.

1. Ryanair is not in talks with other legacy airlines to operate as a feeder. Example: they've said before they're in talks with British Airways, but BA immediately and strongly denied it.

2. it is not cheaper for legacy carriers to use Ryanair as feeder i.s.o. their own domestic flights. Yes, some legacy carriers now loose money on domestic (or intra-Europe) flights. But they will loose more money overall when they would work with Ryanair as feeder. Only for flights operated at a load factor of exactly 100%, it could be cheaper transferring own passengers to FR = when those add-on seats would be sold intra-Europe to full Y or C pax. Indeed: for flights operated as less then 99% occupancy, the only direct cost for a legacy carrier for an add-on passenger is just the extra fuel that is needed to transport pax + luggage (plus eventually free drinks, snacks and a newspaper). Additional overall costs, like crew and lease and marketing and maintenance and insurance can be waived for the add-on, as long as it's calculated into the long haul.

3. There a zillion other reasons why Ryanair cannot operate as feeder:
https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewtopic ... 20#p322762

Conclusion: Ryanair needs more passengers for the load of new aircraft on order. So they're planning new routes. However, given their huge market share already, they're now confronted with internal competition (example new routes for FR-BRU means less passengers for FR-CRL). So they're now desperately looking for a solution for this problem, and O'Leary can easily convince his shareholders that this feeder-story "we have found gold" is the solution for internal competition. And shareholders love those weekly reports about these golden plans: every article on a relevant news source means the shares go up 1%. But anyone with practical experience of long haul transfer operations and price calculations knows it will remain a golden dream.

[sean1982]

Where are those denials btw from IAG and TAP and Aer Lingus and Virgin Atlantic (who tried to set up their own feeder but failed) and Norwegian?

[Passenger]

Quote from Reuters: "...A spokeswoman for IAG, which does not currently fly from Stansted, said that the airline had not had any "formal" discussions with Ryanair on the issue..."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/1 ... OP20150810

The other airlines don't spend any time to deny Ryanair's lies. They just classify it with the other stories and fairytailes we hear for years now: we will fly with one pilot, we will remove all seats, we will charge for the use of a toilet, euh no, we will simply remove all toilets, we will fly long haul, we will forbit hold luggage at all, passengers will soon fly for free, etc."

To be added to that list: "we will soon operate as feeder for BA, LH, AF/KL, Ib and other legacy carriers".

[crew1990]

Quote from Reuters: "...A spokeswoman for IAG, which does not currently fly from Stansted, said that the airline had not had any "formal" discussions with Ryanair on the issue..."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/1 ... OP20150810

The other airlines don't spend any time to deny Ryanair's lies. They just classify it with the other stories and fairytailes we hear for years now: we will fly with one pilot, we will remove all seats, we will charge for the use of a toilet, euh no, we will simply remove all toilets, we will fly long haul, we will forbit hold luggage at all, passengers will soon fly for free, etc."

To be added to that list: "we will soon operate as feeder for BA, LH, AF/KL, Ib and other legacy carriers".

And you forgot the "we will never fly from airport like CDG"

[sean1982]

Quote from Reuters: "...A spokeswoman for IAG, which does not currently fly from Stansted, said that the airline had not had any "formal" discussions with Ryanair on the issue..."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/1 ... OP20150810

The other airlines don't spend any time to deny Ryanair's lies. They just classify it with the other stories and fairytailes we hear for years now: we will fly with one pilot, we will remove all seats, we will charge for the use of a toilet, euh no, we will simply remove all toilets, we will fly long haul, we will forbit hold luggage at all, passengers will soon fly for free, etc."

To be added to that list: "we will soon operate as feeder for BA, LH, AF/KL, Ib and other legacy carriers".

That's one of the list (many of these quotes btw are older than most cheeses in a shop) Where are the rest of your sources?

(In your own link btw, IAG only denies "formal talks" btw, a big nuance )

[Stij]

Cleaned up the playgroynd a little...

[Stij]

From a cell phone in Italy... Sorry for being a bit short

[airazurxtror]

New management faces check-in at Ryanair :
- John Tuite joins Ryanair as head of finance having previously worked in the same role at Bank of Ireland Corporate.
- Eamonn Hackett was also group treasurer of AIB and will assume responsibility for all Ryanair's treasury and banking functions.
- Greg O'Gorman, recruited as director of ancillary revenue, has previously been head of ancillary at easyJet.
- Fiona Kearns takes on the role of director of customer service. Kearns joined Ryanair in 2007 and has held a number of senior positions in the customer service department including currently deputy director of customer service.

http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/ireland/148661-

[sn26567]

Memories of the past: a Ryanair ATR-42 at London Luton in 1989

[Passenger]

Where are the rest of your sources?

This whole feeder fairytale is based upon a Reuters article "...O’Leary says…”, edition 937 : dated 10th August 2015:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/1 ... OP20150810

First paragraph from that article: “…Ryanair is in talks with British Airways owner International Airlines Group and Aer Lingus about providing transfer connections for its rivals' long-haul services for the first time in its 30-year history, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary told Reuters on Monday…”[/i]

(In your own link btw, IAG only denies "formal talks" btw, a big nuance )

When the above interview was done, the Reuters reporter apparently phoned IAG and asked them if they are indeed having formal discussions about this feeder story. Reaction from IAG’s spokeswoman: “no” (nee/non), resulting in this polite phrase: “A spokeswoman for IAG, which does not currently fly from Stansted, said that the airline had not had any "formal" discussions with Ryanair on the issue.”

Where are those denials btw from IAG and TAP and Aer Lingus and Virgin Atlantic (who tried to set up their own feeder but failed) and Norwegian?

Apart from IAG, nobody has denied it indeed. You regard that as a proof that it’s true. I say: they haven’t confirmed it, so their silence is the denial, combined with “just leave it, it's O'Leary style”.

Translated in Dutch: “Ze zeggen… Wat zeggen ze? Laat ze zeggen…” (BZN-spreekwoord). TAP and others translate this proverb into "we don't react to gossip".

(edited -< typo)

[sean1982]

The fact that you say the answer from IAG is "just polite" is YOUR interpretation of the story

American Airlines and US airways also denied formal talks for the longest time, but still ended up merging

I dont regard anything as proof that its true btw, but the same goes for the opposite

The only fairytale I can see so far is yours. (Remember, a few months ago you where also saying that FR starting flights from AMS was a fairytale)

[airazurxtror]

At Ryanair's annual general meeting in Dublin last week, Mr Bonderman ruled out any transatlantic service ever being operated by the carrier.
In today's interview he said that another strategic model being pursued by Ryanair - the possible inking of interlining agreements with airlines such as Aer Lingus and British Airways, might not be viable.
Mr O'Leary said some agreements could be announced by next summer.
But Mr Bonderman said he's not sure such arrangements will work effectively.
"As the industry grows and matures, people will try different things, including, perhaps, interlining," he said.
"I myself am a sceptic on that because if you're going to continue focusing relentlessly on low cost and low prices, you can't be doing things that are inefficient.
"Trying to co-ordinate flights, if that's what you do, with a long-haul carrier makes for inefficiency. Southwest has tried it in the States, but nobody has really tried it in a big way. As I say, I'm a sceptic."

http://www.independent.ie/business/ryan ... 71654.html

David Bonderman is Chairman of the Board of Directors; Michael O'Leary is Chief Executive Officer. Who actually runs the company ?

[cathay belgium]

Hi,

Both Bonderman and MoL are right,they said the same things about going transatlantic.

MoL Ryanair would never go transatlantic, Ryanair would set up a seperate division for this and ONLY when the accurate plane would be available in mass at a right price...
As thinking in terms of B787 or A333 this will take a lot of (more ) time..
When MoL would retire he said so we will have to wait for that...

Concerning interlining... never say never but it will be hard for both parties.. so hard and such a big gamble I only see losers... yet...

CXB

On a note with the ATR... would be nice if FR would paint also a classic livery

[sn26567]

Chief Executive Officer Bjoern Kjos confirmed that talks are under way on cooperation with Ryanair Holdings Plc, Europe’s biggest discount carrier, that could see the Irish company help feed passenger’s onto Norwegian’s long-haul flights “from every corner of Europe.” A deal could be concluded “shortly,” he said.

Norwegian's Kjos says interline deal with Ryanair 'close'

Norwegian founder and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Bjørn Kjos has confirmed that his airline is in cooperation talks with fellow budget operator and rival, Ryanair.

Kjos told Bloomberg news in an interview that the negotiations pertain to the Irish LCC providing feeder traffic to Norwegian Long Haul at its bases around Europe. A deal could be concluded “shortly,” he said.

Kjos's comments confirm Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary's remarks in August wherein he acknowledged his airline was in talks to seal interline agreements with number of longhaul operators. Among the carriers approached by Ryanair include Aer Lingus concerning feed into its Dublin Int'l hub, TAP Air Portugal and its Lisbon hub, and Norwegian and Virgin Atlantic concerning their London Gatwick base operations. Ryanair has been increasing its presence at Europe's major longhaul hubs and this week French paper Les Echos revealed the airline has applied for Paris CDG and Paris Orly slots.

“We have already had discussions about this topic with IAG, TAP, Aer Lingus, Virgin Atlantic, Norwegian. I think we will be able to announce a few deals next summer,” he said.

However, despite O'Leary's optimism, Ryanair's chairman David Bonderman has expressed his own scepticism at the move claiming it would negatively impact Ryanair's low-cost business model.

"I myself am a sceptic on that because if you're going to continue focusing relentlessly on low cost and low prices, you can't be doing things that are inefficient," he told the Irish Independent in an interview. "Trying to co-ordinate flights, if that's what you do, with a long-haul carrier makes for inefficiency. Southwest Airlines has tried it in the States, but nobody has really tried it in a big way. As I say, I'm a sceptic."

Source: ch-aviation

[Boeing767copilot]

RYANAIR SEPT. TRAFFIC GROWS 12% TO 9.55M CUSTOMERS
05 Oct 2015


LOAD FACTOR RISES 4% POINTS TO 94%

Ryanair, Europe’s favourite airline, today (5 Oct) released traffic statistics for September as follows:

Traffic grew 12% to 9.55m customers.
Load factor rose 4% points to 94%.
Rolling annual traffic to Sept. grew 16% to 97.3m customers

[MD-11forever]

Ryanair’s O’Leary Aims to Cut Ticket Prices to 25 euro, Welt Says

(Bloomberg) -- Ryanair will seek to cut prices for flight tickets to 25 euro on average from 45 euro with the help of falling oil price, CEO Michael O’Leary tells Welt am Sonntag newspaper in an interview.
- Longer-term reduction toward zero will be helped by additional aircraft, O’Leary says
- Ryanair to seek 25% market share in Europe by 2025
- Airline assessing possible cooperation with other carriers

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair is in negotiations with Munich Airport to start flying from the southern hub as part of a strategy to aggressively expand its German market-share.
The Irish carrier hopes to start flying from the Bavarian capital by Winter 2016, of "if possible sooner," said head of marketing Kenny Jacobs.
Ryanair is currently in negotiations with the airport over the charges it would pay to use the runways, and the time windows in which it could take off and land, reports the Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ).
The news comes as confirmation that Ryanair is seeking to change its strategy in Germany away from flying to provincial airports such as Memmingen – an old military airport around two hours to the east of Munich - and Frankfurt-Hahn.
Memmingen would continue to serve primarily tourists, while Munich would be for business clients.
Possible routes are Munich-London and Munich-Hamburg.

Read more :
http://www.thelocal.de/20151005/ryanair ... n-strategy

[airazurxtror]

It is “very important” that the UK stays in the EU and Ryanair has a role to play in helping to avoid a feared ‘Brexit’ next year, airline chief executive Michael O’Leary has said.
“We’re now the UK’s biggest airline, which is why we do have a role to play in next year’s referendum. I think it is very important that the UK stays in Europe.

“We all have issues with Europe... I don’t want to be part of a united states of Europe, I don’t want to be adopting French social policies, they don’t work in France, and they’re certainly not going to work here either,” said Mr O’Leary, who has often an outspoken critic of the EU in the past.
“We should celebrate the differences that exist between European countries. We should continue to work together as an economic union because it has worked... It has transformed and improved the lives of citizens right across the European Union, ” he said.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics ... -1.2379511