BRU Summer 2015: latest news, routes, airlines

[rwandan-flyer]

KLM started flights to Kigali with a 5 weekly service, in 2010. Since 2013, flights are now daily. They are now using both A330-200 and A330-300. Furthermore, KLM has a bigger network than SN.

[suomalainen]

Why are so many people flying KLM when The Netherlands have no historic ties with Rwanda, while Belgium has always been present here?

Because SN flies on triangle flights ! KGL in combination with EBB/BJM/NBO ?
Then the figures show that KLM is not doing that well ! With non-stop direct flights. And this could drive many pax from BRU to AMS (as well in combination with the feeding from AF ? )

[sn26567]

Probably not the right topic to discuss this but there will be a new meeting with ANA All Nippon Airways on Tuesday.

And apparently there is some progress. However, ANA is not ready yet to take a decision now. They will wait until the end of the summer to re-evaluate the situation.

Is that the polite Japanese way to say "no"?

[sn26567]

On 3 July, Vueling will introduce the A321 on the route from Barcelona to Brussels.

[CTBke]

where will the A321 come from ?

[sn26567]

where will the A321 come from ?

New from Airbus. In addition to its current all A320 fleet, Vueling has ordered A321s, the first of which will enter into service on 3 July. Here is its schedule:


Source: OAG and Routes online

[MrG4]

where will the A321 come from ?

New from Airbus. In addition to its current all A320 fleet, Vueling has ordered A321s, the first of which will enter into service on 3 July. Here is its schedule:


Source: OAG and Routes online

Y220?

[crew1990]

Y240 no? The new configuration.

[sn26567]

Y240 no? The new configuration.

Correct: Airbus got the order from Vueling at the condition that it could raise the seat number from 220 to 240. It was Vueling that was the inspiration for Airbus (also for Y186 in the A320).

[crew1990]

When Vueling will do a BCN-BRU-BCN rotation they will be transporting 480 people in a shot while when Brussels Airlines send their bigger narrow body down there, the A320, they transport only 336 people, if Vueling start coming with the A321 and Wizzair to CRL from Budapest with a A321 I would say that it's really time for Brussels Airlines to look after the A321, as they can easily feel them with a good load factor on some route like Lisabon, Barcelona, Madrid or Tel Aviv plus all the charter flight.

[Boeing767copilot]

Turkish Airlines adds 7 new destinations from Ankara

14 May 2015 13:27 (Last updated 14 May 2015 13:29)
Turkish Airlines to fly directly from Ankara to Frankfurt, Vienna, Baku, Brussels, London, Tehran, and Amsterdam in 2015

more on:

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/509839- ... rom-ankara

[Airbus A330]

And apparently there is some progress. However, ANA is not ready yet to take a decision now. They will wait until the end of the summer to re-evaluate the situation.

This article (in French) tells some interesting details:

http://www.lavenir.net/cnt/DMF20150512_00648102


- Slots have been made available for ANA (or already allocated?)
- Administrative problems have been solved
- ANA will visit the airport this summer and will take the decision after

Next to Brussels Airport, Brussels Airlines is also really interested by this Tokyo route.

[CTBke]

Next to Brussels Airport, Brussels Airlines is also really interested by this Tokyo route.

Would be very wise to codeshare this flights with ANA

EDIT: small modification by moderator to correct the quoting a bit!

[brusselsairlinesfan]

Was the BRU-TYO route really profitable under the SABENA era?

[Stij]

Don't know, I flew it in 1994 on a B743 that was packed in both directions.

Cheers,

Stij

[skumfiduse]

Don't know, I flew it in 1994 on a B743 that was packed in both directions.

Cheers,

Stij

A full plane is no guarantee for profitability.

Let's wait and see what will happen when ANA has made up their mind. My guess is they're not only evaluating the route itself but also the outcome of the BE-JP mission: contract negotiations, new business, ...

[Stij]

A full plane is no guarantee for profitability.

That's why I wrote "Don't know"!

Cheers,

Stij

[RoMax]

Next to Brussels Airport, Brussels Airlines is also really interested by this Tokyo route.

Would be very wise to codeshare this flights with ANA

Indeed. And to be clear to all, the way this should be read is that SN wants ANA on this route as soon as possible and not that SN will launch it themself. The partnership could go further than a codeshare. LH, LX and OS are in a joint-venture with ANA for Europe-Japan.

[CTBke]

exactly... SN could codeshare a lot more in order to use their A330 fleet for other destinations or rotation upgrades to Africa when needed... but I think they always want to fly the destination with SN metal... but maybe it's time to take more benefits from the star alliance network and make better agreements with the partner airlines flying out of brussels

[asianlao02]

It will be great if Ana come to BRU. They have Frankfurt,Munich,Dusseldorff,Paris,London. It's not too much for them to add BRU? DUS is near Brussels. My japanese friend said to me that ANA doesn't want to come but with Charles Michel (2015)and the economic mission in 2010,2011 ( don't remember the exact year) ,they feel obliged (se sentir obligé) to visit bru installation