Ryanair in 2015
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crew1990, in the several Ryanair flights I have taken this year, I didn't have the impression that they were pushing sales, except for the scratch cards (the profits of which go to charities, if I'm correct).
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But between what people are trained to do and what they actually do there is a difference it s like in mac donald they are suppose to ask you if you want a desert when you ask for a big mac, but never see anyone asking me it.
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This is exactly what had changed, crew1990. The whole philosophy behind "pushing sales" is gone. The aim is now to inform what is available (not through PA's) anymore and let the pax decide whether or not he or she wants to buy rather than "forcing it down their throat"crew1990 wrote:Yes I know that Ryanair have a better service than before but still it's another philosophy than Brussels Airlines, understand me well I'm not saying one is better than the other it's just it's different Ryanair have one class where cabin crew are well trained to push the sell to a maximum and they are very good at it, there is some target on each flight, and if a cabin crew don't get the target several months in a row he get a nice letter from Dublin (it was my case once). In brussels airlines, in light economy in the European flight we also sell thing because we consider that if a passenger is willing to eat or drink he has the right to do so, so yes we have a couple of thing to sell but we are not pushing the sell, we don't promote the thing we have on the trolley, we don't have target. Once again I'm not saying one is better than the other one it's just that it's another philosophy and having working in both I know which one I prefer. Even if I have to admit that I miss the Mars Muffin
Btw, the mars muffin has gone as well :'-(
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Ryanair has confirmed that around €4.5m was fraudulently removed from one of its bank accounts through a Chinese bank last week.
The airline said it has been working with its banks and the relevant authorities and understands that the funds had now been frozen.
The airline said it expects these funds to be repaid shortly.
Ryanair says it has taken steps to try to ensure that this type of transfer cannot reoccur.
It is understood the fraud came to light last Friday and the Criminal Assets Bureau in Dublin was asked to assist in recovery of the funds via counterpart agencies in Asia.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0429/697478-ryanair/
It is thought the money was taken from the Ryanair account used to pay for fuel for its fleet of over 400 Boeing 737-800 planes.
http://utv.ie/News/2015/04/29/Hackers-s ... ount-36332
It is currently unclear how the attackers were able to gain access to Ryanair's funds transfer systems, which are believed to have been tapped in order to perform the illegal transfer - although some form of insider compromise is most likely.
Ryanair, like any other major airline, makes regular multi-million dollar payments in order to pay for the aviation fuel that it needs and it is believed that the erroneous payment was contained with a batch of other major funds transfer payments.
The airline said it has been working with its banks and the relevant authorities and understands that the funds had now been frozen.
The airline said it expects these funds to be repaid shortly.
Ryanair says it has taken steps to try to ensure that this type of transfer cannot reoccur.
It is understood the fraud came to light last Friday and the Criminal Assets Bureau in Dublin was asked to assist in recovery of the funds via counterpart agencies in Asia.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0429/697478-ryanair/
It is thought the money was taken from the Ryanair account used to pay for fuel for its fleet of over 400 Boeing 737-800 planes.
http://utv.ie/News/2015/04/29/Hackers-s ... ount-36332
It is currently unclear how the attackers were able to gain access to Ryanair's funds transfer systems, which are believed to have been tapped in order to perform the illegal transfer - although some form of insider compromise is most likely.
Ryanair, like any other major airline, makes regular multi-million dollar payments in order to pay for the aviation fuel that it needs and it is believed that the erroneous payment was contained with a batch of other major funds transfer payments.
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"...Ryanair understands that the funds are now been frozen...". I think this is a bit too optimistic. Chinese and other bank scammers/fraudsters usually don't have the kind willingness to refund the stolen money once the hacking is discovered. Actually, those fraud stories appear quite often in the Belgian press, and it's always the same: the hackers transfer the money to a bank account that has been opened with false ID documents, and withdraw the money in cash the next day.airazurxtror wrote:Ryanair has confirmed that around €4.5m was fraudulently removed from one of its bank accounts through a Chinese bank last week. The airline said it has been working with its banks and the relevant authorities and understands that the funds had now been frozen. The airline said it expects these funds to be repaid shortly.
One tech-site is a bit more realistic about this: "...The criminal scam popped up only last Friday, now Ryanair has asked the CAB (Criminal Assets Bureau) in Dublin to help them recover the hacked funds... As of now, the CAB is using its connections with similar agencies in Asia to trace the money so as to help the airline secure its recovery. The Irish bureau is a part of the Camden Assets Recovery Inter agency Network and its equivalent network for the Asia Pacific is the Asset Recovery Interagency Network Asia Pacific which is based in Korea...
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Ryanair is enjoying generous rebates and bonuses as it sets up shop at Copenhagen Airport. The exact amount is a secret, but recent reports say the breaks run well into millions of kroner.
Airport press officer Søren Hedegaard said the rules governing rebates given to airlines can be found on the airport’s website.
http://www.cph.dk/globalassets/blocks/b ... l-2015.pdf
Copenhagen Airport defended the policy, saying it had to have a rebate system in place in order to compete with other airports.
“Copenhagen Airport’s startup discounts are perfectly fair and equal for all,” said Hedegaard.
Airport press officer Søren Hedegaard said the rules governing rebates given to airlines can be found on the airport’s website.
http://www.cph.dk/globalassets/blocks/b ... l-2015.pdf
Copenhagen Airport defended the policy, saying it had to have a rebate system in place in order to compete with other airports.
“Copenhagen Airport’s startup discounts are perfectly fair and equal for all,” said Hedegaard.
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http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/fr ... 28251.html
Mr O’Leary revealed that Ryanair has a pair of Learjets on standby daily in Dublin and Bergamo to ferry mechanical or engineering assistance to any of its 309-strong fleet around Europe.
Mr O’Leary revealed that Ryanair has a pair of Learjets on standby daily in Dublin and Bergamo to ferry mechanical or engineering assistance to any of its 309-strong fleet around Europe.
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It’s not only joy for Ryanair in Kopenhagen. On 20th May, the Danish Labour Court will settle a dispute between Ryanair and the Danish unions. The unions want to organize a “sympathy blockade” against Ryanair, as protest against the Irish labour contracts for Danish staff. Ryanair aks the Labour Court to forbit the “sympathy blockade” because it is against the principle of freedom of trade within the European Union. If the “sympathy blockade” is granted, Ryanair can go into appeal with the European Commissioner for Competition: Margrethe Vestiger, former Danish minister for Economics…airazurxtror wrote:Ryanair is enjoying generous rebates and bonuses as it sets up shop at Copenhagen Airport. The exact amount is a secret, but recent reports say the breaks run well into millions of kroner. Airport press officer Søren Hedegaard said the rules governing rebates given to airlines can be found on the airport’s website.
http://www.cph.dk/globalassets/blocks/b ... l-2015.pdf
Copenhagen Airport defended the policy, saying it had to have a rebate system in place in order to compete with other airports. “Copenhagen Airport’s startup discounts are perfectly fair and equal for all,” said Hedegaard.
http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Politik/2015/04/30/191201.htm
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So now you're in favour of the unions because they are against Ryanair? You turn quicker than the windPassenger wrote:It’s not only joy for Ryanair in Kopenhagen. On 20th May, the Danish Labour Court will settle a dispute between Ryanair and the Danish unions. The unions want to organize a “sympathy blockade” against Ryanair, as protest against the Irish labour contracts for Danish staff. Ryanair aks the Labour Court to forbit the “sympathy blockade” because it is against the principle of freedom of trade within the European Union. If the “sympathy blockade” is granted, Ryanair can go into appeal with the European Commissioner for Competition: Margrethe Vestiger, former Danish minister for Economics…airazurxtror wrote:Ryanair is enjoying generous rebates and bonuses as it sets up shop at Copenhagen Airport. The exact amount is a secret, but recent reports say the breaks run well into millions of kroner. Airport press officer Søren Hedegaard said the rules governing rebates given to airlines can be found on the airport’s website.
http://www.cph.dk/globalassets/blocks/b ... l-2015.pdf
Copenhagen Airport defended the policy, saying it had to have a rebate system in place in order to compete with other airports. “Copenhagen Airport’s startup discounts are perfectly fair and equal for all,” said Hedegaard.
http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Politik/2015/04/30/191201.htm
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Sean, you had too much vinegar in your coffee this morning (once again). I didn't speak out for or against the Danish unions: I've just reported the simple fact that Ryanair will encounter some serious labour issues in Kopenhagen.sean1982 wrote:So now you're in favour of the unions because they are against Ryanair? You turn quicker than the windPassenger wrote:It’s not only joy for Ryanair in Kopenhagen. On 20th May, the Danish Labour Court will settle a dispute between Ryanair and the Danish unions. The unions want to organize a “sympathy blockade” against Ryanair, as protest against the Irish labour contracts for Danish staff. Ryanair aks the Labour Court to forbit the “sympathy blockade” because it is against the principle of freedom of trade within the European Union. If the “sympathy blockade” is granted, Ryanair can go into appeal with the European Commissioner for Competition: Margrethe Vestiger, former Danish minister for Economics…airazurxtror wrote:Ryanair is enjoying generous rebates and bonuses as it sets up shop at Copenhagen Airport. The exact amount is a secret, but recent reports say the breaks run well into millions of kroner. Airport press officer Søren Hedegaard said the rules governing rebates given to airlines can be found on the airport’s website.
http://www.cph.dk/globalassets/blocks/b ... l-2015.pdf
Copenhagen Airport defended the policy, saying it had to have a rebate system in place in order to compete with other airports. “Copenhagen Airport’s startup discounts are perfectly fair and equal for all,” said Hedegaard.
http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Politik/2015/04/30/191201.htm
Actually, it's not only the Danish unions who don't like the Ryanair contracts: "...Arbejdsmarkedsforsker Henning Jørgensen fra Aalborg Universitet har tidligere over for DR Nyheder kaldt ansættelses-kontrakterne for "slavelignende forhold". Translated: a researcher from Aalborg University says that the Ryanair labour contracts are pure slaverny.
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Hahaha, that reseacher may come and look at my contract (and wage) any time

I worked 12 days last month and earned more than 2000EUR netto, so call me a slave anyday if that's what it is
I worked 12 days last month and earned more than 2000EUR netto, so call me a slave anyday if that's what it is
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Ryanair today (5 May) released customer and load factor statistics for April as follows:
- Traffic grew 16% to 9m customers.
- Load factor rose 7% points to 91%.
- Rolling annual traffic to April grew 12% to 91.8m customers.
See more at: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines_press_r ... s-7-to-91/
- Traffic grew 16% to 9m customers.
- Load factor rose 7% points to 91%.
- Rolling annual traffic to April grew 12% to 91.8m customers.
See more at: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines_press_r ... s-7-to-91/
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You might want to be informed that whenever incomes are compared, it is normaly done on the "gross salary" basis, as that is the only realistic benchmark figure you can somehow compare: net income depends too heavily on your personal family situation and of course on that sticky issue of where you actually pay your taxes and social security as flight crew.sean1982 wrote:I worked 12 days last month and earned more than 2000EUR netto, so call me a slave anyday if that's what it is
When you refer to the normal benchmark figures, reality will show more clearly I am sure: the fact you as one of their employees here in Belgium do not perceive that reality in your pocket is because of fiscal engineering, one that is often questioned by others as you know and not entirely without reason, I feel.
If everybody working for a foreign company in Belgium would be allowed to pay his dues in the country of origin of his employer, a whole lot of very common people would start to make a lot more than just 2,000 euro too, you know, and the belgian government would go bust within a few months.
In fact, not that it matters in this discussion, but personally, I don't think 2,000 euro net is a lot of money for somebody who's doing what you do, since that long already, with the instructing responsibily attached to it, if I take into account it's just an Irish contract. I don't know the extralegal package: maybe you get a car + unlimited fuel card etc on top just to say something, but from my point of view you'd be worth a bit more in net and definitely much more in gross even, believe me! It's high time for a significant pay increase I'd say: don't let them subue you with an ok'ish net salary; look at the gross.
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Ryanair’s chief marketing officer Kenny Jacobs put the increase passenger numbers down to lower fares, better service and stronger forward bookings.
“ Ryanair customers can now look forward to further service enhancements, as we roll out year two of our Always Getting Better programme in 2015,” he said :
- new website
- new app
- new cabin interiors
- new crew uniforms
- improved inflight menus
- reduced fees.
“ Ryanair customers can now look forward to further service enhancements, as we roll out year two of our Always Getting Better programme in 2015,” he said :
- new website
- new app
- new cabin interiors
- new crew uniforms
- improved inflight menus
- reduced fees.
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I said MORE THAN 2000€ and how much is none of your business, furthermore i said multiple times allready that I'm allready on the belgian system, so please, keep your political agenda to yourself. Even your favourite airline is bypassing out costly belgian system now with contractors with the pretext of "conversion difficulties" and giving them an illegal "proefperiode) Gross pay is upward 3000€ significantly. But sure, you know my financial situation better than I doInquirer wrote:You might want to be informed that whenever incomes are compared, it is normaly done on the "gross salary" basis, as that is the only realistic benchmark figure you can somehow compare: net income depends too heavily on your personal family situation and of course on that sticky issue of where you actually pay your taxes and social security as flight crew.sean1982 wrote:I worked 12 days last month and earned more than 2000EUR netto, so call me a slave anyday if that's what it is
When you refer to the normal benchmark figures, reality will show more clearly I am sure: the fact you as one of their employees here in Belgium do not perceive that reality in your pocket is because of fiscal engineering, one that is often questioned by others as you know and not entirely without reason, I feel.
If everybody working for a foreign company in Belgium would be allowed to pay his dues in the country of origin of his employer, a whole lot of very common people would start to make a lot more than just 2,000 euro too, you know, and the belgian government would go bust within a few months.
In fact, not that it matters in this discussion, but personally, I don't think 2,000 euro net is a lot of money for somebody who's doing what you do, since that long already, with the instructing responsibily attached to it, if I take into account it's just an Irish contract. I don't know the extralegal package: maybe you get a car + unlimited fuel card etc on top just to say something, but from my point of view you'd be worth a bit more in net and definitely much more in gross even, believe me! It's high time for a significant pay increase I'd say: don't let them subue you with an ok'ish net salary; look at the gross.
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Ryanair April figures soar
Ryanair continued its strong momentum in April with a 16% rise in passenger carryings to 9 million. This gave Europe’s leading low-cost carrier a rolling 12 month total of 91.8 million passengers. The load factor in April jumped by seven percentage points year-on-year to 91%.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines_press_r ... s-7-to-91/
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/ ... -soar.html
Ryanair continued its strong momentum in April with a 16% rise in passenger carryings to 9 million. This gave Europe’s leading low-cost carrier a rolling 12 month total of 91.8 million passengers. The load factor in April jumped by seven percentage points year-on-year to 91%.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines_press_r ... s-7-to-91/
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/ ... -soar.html