Ryanair in 2015

[Passenger]

The provisional decision announced by the CMA on Friday upheld a previous ruling, which directed the airline to offload most of its stake because of competition.

Ryanair's challenge against the initial CMA decision was dismissed in February 2015. Ryanair then argued that the CMA has no longer the power to impose a disinvestment remedy, and that protest has been dismissed today. Every decision is provisional untill the final verdict, but it seems that the final decision will not differ much from the initial decision that Ryanair will have to reduce its 29,8% stake into 5%.

Fact is that it is not about "competition", but about unfair competition and/or market disturbing competition. Regarding this, the CMA states in today's decision: “As the decisions in our report made clear, without any action to reduce its shareholding, Ryanair would remain a significant hurdle to any merger because it has an incentive as a competitor of Aer Lingus and, by its shareholding, the ability to hinder Aer Lingus from implementing its own commercial strategy".

Ryanair described the CMA’s provisional decision as “manifestly wrong.”

And at IAG and at Aer Lingus, they call it manifestly correct".

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair is renewing talks in Israel on opening routes to several European destinations. This follows a long period in which contacts between Ryanair and Israeli aviation and tourism authorities were broken off.
Ryanair's plan is to operate flights at a price of 140 euro for a return ticket to various destinations, but it intends to start with even lower fares.
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-ryan ... 1001029209

[Passenger]

An unedited quote from that article on Globes.co.il: "...Ryanair's plan is to operate flights at a price of 140 euro for a return ticket to various destinations, but it intends to start with even lower fares...."

It's a pity for the Israelis that they won't be able to use this promise 140 Euro for a return ticket as legally binded, if indeed Ryanair would start these operations.

[sean1982]

An unedited quote from that article on Globes.co.il: "...Ryanair's plan is to operate flights at a price of 140 euro for a return ticket to various destinations, but it intends to start with even lower fares...."

It's a pity for the Israelis that they won't be able to use this promise 140 Euro for a return ticket as legally binded, if indeed Ryanair would start these operations.

that 69EUR fare should be legally binding as well

[Passenger]

An unedited quote from that article on Globes.co.il: "...Ryanair's plan is to operate flights at a price of 140 euro for a return ticket to various destinations, but it intends to start with even lower fares...."

It's a pity for the Israelis that they won't be able to use this promise 140 Euro for a return ticket as legally binded, if indeed Ryanair would start these operations.

that 69EUR fare should be legally binding as well

It is! If you book a flight that is announced for 69 Euro, you will pay 69 Euro.

[sean1982]

An unedited quote from that article on Globes.co.il: "...Ryanair's plan is to operate flights at a price of 140 euro for a return ticket to various destinations, but it intends to start with even lower fares...."

It's a pity for the Israelis that they won't be able to use this promise 140 Euro for a return ticket as legally binded, if indeed Ryanair would start these operations.

that 69EUR fare should be legally binding as well

It is! If you book a flight that is announced for 69 Euro, you will pay 69 Euro.

ALL flights are announced to be starting at 69€, but you never find any! I can announce that way as well

[MrG4]

Maybe for flying to Eilat aitport? http://airlines.einnews.com/article/260 ... ontinued=1

[airazurxtror]

ALL flights are announced to be starting at 69€, but you never find any!

And, better still, there is another "Belgian" airline where a flight advertised at 29,99 euros will actually cost you 44,99 euros ....

[Passenger]

Ryanair and Aer Lingus renew Twitter feud

The two Irish airlines have clashed again on Twitter, with Ryanair once more having the last laugh, with a tweet yesterday claiming Aer Lingus offered "nearly" low fares.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/trave ... -feud.html

And sometimes, it's Aer Lingus who has the last laugh:

Rugby referee Nigel Owens needed to fly from Bristol (U.K.) to Dublin (Ireland). However, he was unaware that Ryanair policy requires a passport for this short flight in the European Union, so he went to Bristol airport with only his ID Card. He was denied on the Ryanair flight, but then Aer Lingus offered him a seat via Twitter:

Nigel Owens: Help @Ryanair didn't now I had to have passport to travel with u to Ireland. Stuck in Bristol Airport. ref in Leinster v Zebre tonite

Ryanair : @Nigelrefowens Hi, as per our terms and conditions here: http://tinyurl.com/ndm2vdk traveling on international route you need a valid passport.

Aer Lingus: @Nigelrefowens Oh no! That's a nightmare indeed, Nigel. You'd be welcome to join us on EI-3281 departing at 0825.

Nigel Owens: Will get to Dublin on time now to ref Leinster v Zebre thanks to @aerlingus for their genuine help and kindess… By the way I don't expect nor want to be treated any different & respect the RyanAir policy. But a bit of common sense for all is needed.

Source:
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/ ... 63034.html

[sean1982]

And what's the informational point of this post? (Besides the point than the FR has a security policy which they stick to, no matter how VIP you are. He tried to check in without passport or ID btw, but with a drivers license)

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair has confirmed it will boost its network from its new Copenhagen Airport base to 12 destinations with the introduction of three new routes for winter 2015/2016 : a daily link to Budapest, a four times weekly service to Alicante and a three times weekly flight to Malaga from the end of October 2015.

From the start of the winter schedules on October 25, 2015, Ryanair will also launch a twice daily link to Brussels Charleroi and a daily service to Cologne/Bonn, Stockholm Skavsta. At the same time its London Luton route will grow from two to three daily rotations and the Bergamo route will increase from a daily to double daily operation.

[Passenger]

And what's the informational point of this post? (Besides the point than the FR has a security policy which they stick to, no matter how VIP you are. He tried to check in without passport or ID btw, but with a drivers license)

1. He had his I.D. Card also with him, but when he presented his drivers license, he was immediately asked for his international passport. His ID Card had no value to Ryanair.

2. Both Ireland and the United Kingdom are countries of the European Union. But yet, Ryanair requires that passengers have an international passport for travel within the EU.

3. For travel documents, almost all airlines apply the immigration rule of the country of arrival.

Someone with bad faith eventually possibly could say that those special Ryanair travel documents rules result in lots of people denied on the flight, resulting in lots of cancelled flights and/or rebooking fees...

[airazurxtror]

2. Both Ireland and the United Kingdom are countries of the European Union. But yet, Ryanair requires that passengers have an international passport for travel within the EU.

Ireland and the UK don't issue identity cards (everyboy knows that, but "Passenger"). Thus, their nationals must have a passport.

Only the following EEA countries currently issue National Identity Cards acceptable for carriage on Ryanair flights: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, France*, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden (not accepted on non Schengen flights), Switzerland.

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/terms-and-con ... mentation/

[Passenger]

...He tried to check in without passport or ID btw, but with a drivers license...

From the Irish Public Information Site (link below):

...The Common Travel Area means that there are no passport controls in operation for Irish and UK citizens travelling between the two countries. Since 1997, some controls are in effect on arrivals in Ireland from the UK but this does not mean that you are required to carry your Irish or UK passport with you when you travel between the countries. You must, however, carry an acceptable form of photo-identification, examples of which are listed below. When you arrive in Ireland, you may sometimes be asked for valid official photo-identification which shows your nationality. As you are being asked to prove that you are an Irish or UK citizen who is entitled to avail of the Common Travel Area arrangements, it would be advisable to travel with your passport...
•A valid passport
•A driver's licence with photo
•An international student card
•A national ID card
•A bus pass with photo
•A Garda ID with photo
•A work ID with photo

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/mo ... he_uk.html

[sean1982]

Since it's inception, dear passenger, FR had not accepted drivers licenses as a form of valid ID due to the airlines strict security policy (I dont think you need a history lesson about Ireland and UK) no matter how VIP you are and no matter how many twitter messages you can send.

[airazurxtror]

Before purchasing a Ryanair flight, you must acknowledge that :

I have read and accept Ryanair's General Terms and Conditions of Carriage, Website Terms of Use and conditions on prohibited items in cabin and checked baggage

If you don't accept them or can't meet them, you don't fly with Ryanair. That's all.

[tsx]

Since it's inception, dear passenger, FR had not accepted drivers licenses as a form of valid ID due to the airlines strict security policy (I dont think you need a history lesson about Ireland and UK)

Wrong, according to Ryanair Terms and Conditions, drivers licenses are accepted but only for Domestic flights.

As you brought the "security" aspect there, can you explain the improvement in security brought by mandating a passports on Paris-Bergamo flights when somebody can check using its driver license for Paris-Béziers ?

(as for the history lesson, the irish authorities themselves don't care for a passport).

[airazurxtror]

Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary has dismissed environmental progress made by certain airlines in developing biofuels, calling it a 'PR stunt'.

Speaking at the ITM conference in St Andrews, Scotland yesterday, on the topic of change in the travel industry, O'Leary was asked about the millions of pounds other airlines are putting into developing fuel alternatives.
"It's all a PR stunt," he said. "Nobody is really flying around the world on aircraft powered by biofuel it's generally all powered on kerosene, the rest is a PR stunt designed to appeal to some middle-aged, middle-classed person worrying about the future.
"We are Europe's leanest and greenest airline as we have the youngest fleet and so burn less oil… on a per passenger basis we are burning the least CO2 emissions, but other than that I don’t really care about all that stuff."

O'Leary also spoke about Ryanair's growth and its target of flying 150 million passengers a year by 2024, with an increased focus on the corporate travel industry.
"The growth is limitless and in five years time we will be in every airport in Europe apart from Heathrow, Frankfurt and Charles De Gaulle."

[sean1982]

Since it's inception, dear passenger, FR had not accepted drivers licenses as a form of valid ID due to the airlines strict security policy (I dont think you need a history lesson about Ireland and UK)

Wrong, according to Ryanair Terms and Conditions, drivers licenses are accepted but only for Domestic flights.

As you brought the "security" aspect there, can you explain the improvement in security brought by mandating a passports on Paris-Bergamo flights when somebody can check using its driver license for Paris-Béziers ?

(as for the history lesson, the irish authorities themselves don't care for a passport).

For beauvais-beziers you would need a passport or national ID as well. Drivers license is only permitted on domestic flights within the UK/Ireland as they dont have national ID's

[Inquirer]

Why is it not deemed a security issue in a domestic flight to fly on just a drivers licence, but only on a foreign flight?

It's clear it has nothing to do about security at all, it's just a rule which is part of the additional revenue generators set out in the business plan. The reason it isn't applicable on domestic flights gives it away: applying it there too would lock out a fair amount if passengers which don't hold international travel documents, so it's really nothing but a business decision.

Sometimes I don't understand why you want to keep appearances up, Sean?
I mean: just like any airline, yours needs to get on average XX amount of euro per passenger to be profitable and if it can't get that at booking because of the way in which it positions itself in the market, it somehow has to rely on making it from (some) passengers afterwards.
Nothing wrong with that even, it's the essence of an 'a la carte' business model in which one only pays for what one needs. However, it's ridiculous to constantly see excuses for every additional fee, tax, charge, levy or whatever even those people who didn't plan on adding anything to their basic ticket are sometimes faced with unexpectedly: one would almost believe Ryanair to be striving to become a non-profit transportation organisation if you believe their official explanation. Obviously, all those revenues do contribute to the bottom line just as much as anything else, so they are very much welcome and are thus kept for a good reason other than just the official one.