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This saga continues, now that officials doubt that the blips would have come from the black boxes.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/12 ... latestnews

This fits in my conpiracy story that they on purpose are "looking" for that jet in such a remote and difficult location.
They are dragging their feet, find all kind of excuses, the truth must stay hidden.

Come on, 2 months on and not 1 piece of debris been found? Get real.
And don't say I don't have respect for relatives. Just the contrary. I bet that many of those relatives just think the same as I do: " What the heck are they doing so far away?" Just 1 answer: winning time.

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YOu seem to have difficulties in coming to terms with the fact that this crash simply defied the limits of what was technologically feasable prior to february 2014? Or better stated: the limits of how we used that technology because in the meanwhile inmarsat offers a service allowing us to track inmarsat equipped aircraft live...based on existing technology. But as always in aviation: it took a disaster to set in motion the innovation that makes the industry safer. On the bright side: in aviation every disaster is leveraged as an opportunity to make aviation safer for the entire flying public.

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I do realize that I provoke a bit with my conspiracy blabla.
But in the same way, you should not use the words crash and disaster as long as there is not any proof
plus, more importantly,
we see that there is NO great effort been done to try to find debris, wreackage, black boxes.
Proof? Well... the Nereus which imploded near New Zealand looking for squid or fish could have been enforced to help for the search.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27374326

I react a bit as if I would have been involved as a relative. Payout has started already - for what? For an airplane that has disappeared? So start looking for that bloody airplane
http://intellihub.com/insurance-payouts ... e-waivers/

Anno 2014 there is absolutely no excuse that after 2 months there is still no ( public) answer.

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much more concerning than my ludicrous ideas is that the "connaisseurs" bluntly say now what I tell you people the last 2 months: there is something going on !
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/15/world ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Just a part:

"Unfortunately, you almost get the sense that they're stalling, that there's something in there that they don't want the world to see. And that's the problem," O'Brien said. "That's why there's so little credibility right now about why this search zone has been identified."

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regi what do you think might have happened? I suspect a Hijacking of some kind.

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globetrotter wrote:regi what do you think might have happened? I suspect a Hijacking of some kind.
I am realistic enough to accept that my opinion doesn't matter at all.
And I want to avoid to step on long toes. And there is the respect for the relatives.

before we start some silly questions:
Has that airplane really left the airport? Have the passengers really boarded and not being transferred to a hangar? Just to give some weird ideas - but let us assume that this is irrelevant.

Fact: report from oil rig workers south of Vung Tau who have seen an explosion in the sky. Strange but there seems to be no follow up on this one. Interesting as well because it is near but still quite northly from the point that the airplane would have turned westbound.

And than the trajectory. Assume that we can accept the reports of Malaysia as true that the airplane suddenly banked westbound. That is the moment that we have our first real question Nr 1: what happened, why ?

And from than onwards - as it has been publicly published: nothing else in fact.

Back to the airport : the Iranian passengers with the stolen passports. Fact , explained, but still strange that this could happen at all.
That story of controling /hacking airliner computers. Possible.
The pilots. Hm, some explanation as well, but still questionable. See the Egypt Air crash .

So all together, very meager results and that is what I want to focus on after all these weeks.
No debris somewhere on a beach. No crash impact in a jungle. Absolutely nothing.
That is strange. And the fact that several authorities, including the Chinese, seem to find this acceptable. Also on this forum: members consider me weird/crazy/childish/irresponable towards the relatives that I cannot accept the fact that nothing has been found back yet.

As long as no debris has been found out of the sea, I do honnestly believe that the airplane has landed/crashed in one way or the other on land. I don't follow that strange story of a hijacked airplane standing somewhere in a central Asian dessert.

Let us go back to the explosion south of Vung Tau. That could have been of a anti air defense system. It could have been a jetfighter that was downed. ( leaving much less floating debris than a B777 )
The airliner itself could have sustained already damage by that jetfighter. Decompression, see the Helios Airways 522 slow decent and eventual crash. Or fire.

But who, why?
Aha, other facts: see the actual tension in Vietnam against Chinese. ( for those who don't know it: 20 Chinese have been killed and China has started an airlift of workers out of Vietnam ) Because of the oil exploration by China in the Spratley archipelago.

I do believe at this moment that something military has gone wrong in a very bad way. And all concerned culprits keep their mouths shut. Otherwise it is a WWIII Asian style.

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see the reply, dated 22/04.
What If the plane was hijacked/read crew jacked (captain) and heading for the Military atol of Diego Garcia.
The Americans/British push the red button, (speakingwise) and intercepting the civil airliner.
Communications are made between the fighter plane and atc.
MH 370 Does not respond, Final decission Is made by American/British authorities, to shoot down the plane, as it keeps on the same heading track.
(reminds a bit on the Korean Sakhalinsk scenario)
Americans/British realize the impact hours later, and there Is no way they Will start looking for debrices, in that area.
Search area now, Is thousends of miles away from where it happened, CIA/MI6 Will never allow a closer Search area, as that part of the world Is never flown over by any excisting commercial airliner, including flight from MRU or JNB to Australia.

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BATAVIA wrote:see the reply, dated 22/04.
What If the plane was hijacked/read crew jacked (captain) and heading for the Military atol of Diego Garcia.
The Americans/British push the red button, (speakingwise) and intercepting the civil airliner.
Communications are made between the fighter plane and atc.
MH 370 Does not respond, Final decission Is made by American/British authorities, to shoot down the plane, as it keeps on the same heading track.
(reminds a bit on the Korean Sakhalinsk scenario)
Americans/British realize the impact hours later, and there Is no way they Will start looking for debrices, in that area.
Search area now, Is thousends of miles away from where it happened, CIA/MI6 Will never allow a closer Search area, as that part of the world Is never flown over by any excisting commercial airliner, including flight from MRU or JNB to Australia.
I don't think so.
Reason: nothing has been found back at any beach, whatsoever.
The military occupants of Diego Garcia would announce their action and give an explanation. See the downing of Iran Air 655.

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I do believe at this moment that something military has gone wrong in a very bad way. And all concerned culprits keep their mouths shut. Otherwise it is a WWIII Asian style.
A Malaysian guy is claiming something similar as inside information, however in his case a super power is involved and its all being kept covered to avoid war. Also mentioned negotiations so perhaps a hijacking.

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I really start to get worried because step by step, my "foolish" predictions become true:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... rities-say

And for those who consider "conspiracy" theories disrespectful for relatives, please read the article where at the end , the relatives express their own thoughts...

To recapture it shortly:
  • because of the lack of any debris at all, I think that the airplane landed/crashed on land.
    the reason why no crash/landing site has been found could be that the event was the result of a disastrous wrong military action that has to be covered up to prevent further escalation.

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For those who happen to be online right now, this late warning:

at 00h20 tonight (BRU-time), on BBC2 tv: "Where is MH-370", a BBC Horizon documentary about the search. Duration one hour.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047czkj

edited : already posted here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=53542

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Relatives now raising 5 million dollars to woo whistleblowers.

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globetrotter wrote:Relatives now raising 5 million dollars to woo whistleblowers.
well, where are the critics now who find it disrespectful for the relatives that outsiders give their view on this mystery ?

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MH370 search area to shift further south

The search area for the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 is expected to move south, Australian officials have said.

An Australian government statement confirmed the survey vessel Fugro Equator it has contracted to help locate flight MH370 began operations this week, joining the Chinese PLA-Navy ship Zhu Kezhen.

Under the direction of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), the two vessels are conducting the bathymetric survey—or mapping of the sea floor—which is crucial to carrying out the deep water search for MH370 that is scheduled to begin in August.

Australia also noted that at the end of May, Zhu Kezhen suffered a defect to its multibeam echosounder and came into the port of Fremantle for necessary repairs. The fault has been rectified and the ship will resume operations in the search area shortly.

So far, the Zhu Kezhen has surveyed 4,088 sq km of the ocean floor, the Australian government said. It is anticipated it will take at least three months to complete the bathymetric survey of the 60,000 sq km search zone.

The ships will regularly send survey data to the ATSB and Geoscience Australia. This data will be used to progressively build a map of the search area.

The search area will be confirmed before the end of June, after completion of extensive collaborative analysis by a range of specialists.

It is believed the new search focus area will be hundreds of miles south of the current area.

Source: ATW online
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Latest: the pilot remains the only suspect in this case - which does not mean he has done something... because nobody knows publicly what has happened.

I still find it very strange that a final suspect has been selected for a crime that not has been named yet.

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regi wrote:Latest: the pilot remains the only suspect in this case - which does not mean he has done something... because nobody knows publicly what has happened.

I still find it very strange that a final suspect has been selected for a crime that not has been named yet.
All press reports about this story refer to The Daily Mirror:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... on-3741513

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Passenger wrote:
regi wrote:Latest: the pilot remains the only suspect in this case - which does not mean he has done something... because nobody knows publicly what has happened.

I still find it very strange that a final suspect has been selected for a crime that not has been named yet.
All press reports about this story refer to The Daily Mirror:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... on-3741513
Yes, that is dreadful reporting.
The main question is: what happened with that airplane?

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and a new search will start this August.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28031741

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regi wrote:and a new search will start this August.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28031741
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has awarded Fugro (the Netherlands) an additional contract for the deployment of two specialist vessels, equipment and expertise in the deep-water search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 (MH370).

Fugro will mobilise its vessels Fugro Equator and Fugro Discovery, both fitted with specialist deep tow survey systems for the work. Since June, the Fugro Equator has been involved in the bathymetric survey of the search area.

Fugro and ATSB expect the Fugro Discovery to begin the deep tow search late September with Fugro Equator joining shortly thereafter.

The search is expected to take up to twelve months but will understandably end if the missing aircraft is found beforehand. The Australian Government has allocated has AUS $60 million to the ATSB to carry out the search for MH370.

Source:
http://www.fugro.com/news/newsdetails.asp?item=680

http://www.fugro.com/ http://www.fugro.nl

(my remark: the 60 mio Australian Dollar in the above press release is for the whole search campaign, not just for this new search)

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