Jetairfly in 2014

[sn26567]

OO-JEF has just been accepted. Fly-away from Seattle in 2-3 hours. The most recent Jetairfly Boeing 737-800 will land at Brussels Airport tomorrow, 25 February around 08:30 local time.

[Zorba]

BFI - KEF - BRU as JAF737, as usual

[T4J]

Scimitar winglet installation is postponed, due to unkown reasons.

[airazurxtror]

Less free baggage from 3 April

For flights before departure date 03/04/14 each paying passenger when travelling with Jetairfly is allowed to take 20 kg of baggage on short and medium haul flights, 25 kg on long haul flights (Comfort class : 30 kg).
Infants less than 2 years : 20 kg

For flights after departure date 03/04/14 each paying passenger when travelling with Jetairfly is allowed to take 15 kg of baggage on short and medium haul flights, 20 kg on long haul flights (Comfort class : 30 kg).
Infants less than 2 years : 15 kg of baggage on short and medium haul flights, 20 kg on long haul flights.
Long-haul flights : Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Zanzibar, Kenia, Mexico and USA.

[sn26567]

Jetairfly will have a new website as from 2 April. Among the new features: the possibility to check-in online 30 hours before departure (from 2 April at BRU and CRL, 5 April at LGG).

[cHabu]

I'm trying to locate the last departure for OO-JBV, probably to BCM.

Thx !

[Konus]

I'm trying to locate the last departure for OO-JBV, probably to BCM.

Thx !

OO-JBV left BRU on 27JAN2014 for maintenance as JAF111.

It then flew to OSR for repaint on 03APR2014, where it is currently stored.

[Passenger]

I'm trying to locate the last departure for OO-JBV, probably to BCM.

Thx !

OO-JBV left BRU on 27JAN2014 for maintenance as JAF111.

It then flew to OSR for repaint on 03APR2014, where it is currently stored.

OO-JBV is ready for a new life in South Africa, for Kulula.com (= British Airways South Africa):
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_P ... ?id=444967
and
http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 3&t=134209

[tangolima]

I'm trying to locate the last departure for OO-JBV, probably to BCM.

Thx !

OO-JBV left BRU on 27JAN2014 for maintenance as JAF111.

It then flew to OSR for repaint on 03APR2014, where it is currently stored.

Hello

OOJBV is already back in BRU.

Greetings,

[Duke]

Why is an older 737-800 (OO-JBV) replaced by a new 737-800 (OO-JEF)?
I assume the new one has the new interior, and will probably more comfortable for the passengers, but the lease rate of the new one must be a lot higher than the older one?
Do the lower maintenance costs offset this?
OO-JBV is now repaintend and starts a new life in South-Africa.
When you add the costs of repainting and maybe refubishing, does lease company still make money?
Isn't it just cheaper for the lease company to keep the aircraft flying with the first airline, or does the new airline pay a lot more lease rates?
Regards,

Duke

[flightlover]

Why is an older 737-800 (OO-JBV) replaced by a new 737-800 (OO-JEF)?
I assume the new one has the new interior, and will probably more comfortable for the passengers, but the lease rate of the new one must be a lot higher than the older one?
Do the lower maintenance costs offset this?
OO-JBV is now repaintend and starts a new life in South-Africa.
When you add the costs of repainting and maybe refubishing, does lease company still make money?
Isn't it just cheaper for the lease company to keep the aircraft flying with the first airline, or does the new airline pay a lot more lease rates?
Regards,

Duke

Fuel burn, comfort and overall economics come to mind. Older planes will have a higher fuel burn rate than newer ones. Even with the same engine type as they will be developed further by the manufacturer. New interior concepts replace the old ones. And maybe the most important one: older planes will generally have longer and more frequent periods of downtime due to maintenance. Which start to cost more because more parts need replacing and stocks of parts may be decreasing.

[RoMax]

OO-JBV originates from 1999, since than several PIP's (Performance improvement packages) have been introduced on the 737NG (just like with every other aircraft program). The fuel improvements (among other improvements) generated by these PIP's over a span of almost 15 years is often seriously underestimated. The difference in fuel burn between the earliest aircraft of a program and the latest can be huge (bigger than the initial transition to a new version or new aircraft type). Of course also the pax comfort improved significantly on the 737NG and also maintenance costs (including costs of downtime) are lower.

[Duke]

Thanks RoMax and flightlover for the clear answer...
When I read this, I wonder why Brussels Airlines doesn't change their ageing A333, but that's another topic...
Regards,

Duke

[RoMax]

Well of course it's always a matter of costs. A333's are highly wanted on the market at this moment, especially the newer ones are extremely efficient, but that makes them expensive while SN has very little money. In addition they operate on relative short flights to Africa and the east coast of the US. Though they would be able to optimises their payload (cargo!!) with newer A333's. Probably (hopefully) when the leases of the current ones are ending (as from 2016?). At this moment SN can probably(?) lease the old A333's very cheap because they are really some of the oldest still in operation.

JAF has the advantage of being part of such a big group. TUI buys (though often they are sold immediatly after delivery to lease them back) 737's in large amounts at once (look at their latest order for 60 737MAX aircraft which will be delivered throughout the group). TUI is successful and has the money to buy/lease new aircraft and receive major discounts from Boeing (in their case) and leasing companies. Of course SN has LH, but their situation is different with SN not fully owned and LH being cautious with SN because of the financial situation of SN.

[Atlantis]

Jetairfly is very happy with the first results of their Miami flights.

According to the first flights they did and the bookings in their system and in those one of their American partners it is looking very good and will be a commercial success. Miami is a big test case for them when it is about the American market.
At this moment the load factor is 90%.

The reason also why they changed their Tel-Aviv flights from LGG to BRU is due to the Miami flights as a huge community of Jewish people is working there. Jetairfly is seeing already a lot of Jewish people booking their flights.

In near future, Jetairfly is looking to add more flights to the Miami flights but also to open more American destinations.

Source: TM Magazine

[Kapitein]

OO-JOS is coming 30/04. Somebody can confirm wich subtype it is?

[Airbus A330]

OO-JOS will be a -700.

[Kapitein]

OO-JOS will be a -700.

Thank you

[sn26567]

Nice article on Jetairfly in anna.aero, which says that expansion will come from French airports

http://www.anna.aero/2014/04/30/jetairf ... s-grow-11/

"This summer has seen Jetairfly increase the number of weekly flights at Paris CDG from just one to 13, while Deauville, Lille and Metz-Nancy have all seen the introduction of new routes and a year-on-year increase in weekly flights. Across the whole network this summer seat capacity (and the number of flights) are both up around 7%, while ASKs (which take into sector length) are up around 11%. Routes operated last summer that have not returned to the airline’s network in 2014 include Brussels Charleroi to Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (now served by Pegasus Airlines), Liege to Tel Aviv, and Marseille to Casablanca."

[sdbelgium]

OO-JOS is coming 30/04. Somebody can confirm wich subtype it is?

New arrival date 05MAY14 from HAJ, after paint in WAW.

OO-JOS is ex-D-AHXH with Air Berlin (although operated by TUIfly and in the TUIfly fleet before) and was built in 2008. Below is an image taken by Andreas Kolbe with (partial) JAF paint and German registration taken on 20APR14.


(c) Andreas Kolbe