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the average decent sedan or touring already costs 40 000 euro, how the hell could you ever reach such low figure :shock:
anyway back to the topic... i don't think we'll see the tax coming to life

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convair wrote: Two questions now: is the tax on the one-way ticket? Can the government legally impose a tax on the return ticket too?
Volgens de algemeen directeur komt de taks overigens in realiteit neer op 6 euro per passagier. De taks zou zowel bij landen als opstijgen gelden
so yes it seems it would be for both ways

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Ryanair to sell advertising on its planes..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... lanes.html

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Tonight in Terzake (Flemish television Canvas/VRT2), at 20h00 and after that constantly repeated between 01h and 09h: "Rudy Demotte reacts to Ryanair's threat to reduce flights at CRL"


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crlhub wrote:Ryanair to sell advertising on its planes..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... lanes.html
Already here on Luchtzak yesterday: viewtopic.php?p=284206#p284206
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That is a remarkable figure and quite an achievement. What do you drive? What does it drive on? Current dieselprice in my neigbourhood is 1,488€/l. At 4l/100km that results in 5,952€/100km or 0,05952€/km merely in terms of fuel cost without accounting for depreciation, maintenance, insurance, tax,...

So if you care to share your strategy...always happy to learn how to drive more cost-efficiently.
It's off-topic, but why not?

I own more than one car, but for business trips I use a car registered as a lichte vracht/camionette. Barely pay any taxes, I buy fuel at Maes NV station with 1.5 cent per liter diesel card discount, on top of prices around 1.3 EUR per liter currently. The thing burns 3.4 liters at 90km/h, 4.1 liters at 115km/h. I don't drive like crazy to save me 5 minutes on my 100km trip or for the adrenaline shots.

Then the magic fiscal trick: lichte vracht / camionette are 100% deductible on all expenses including fuel, and you can deduct the VAT on all expenses. I thus pay a little more than 1 euro nett price per liter and I can deduct it from revenues.

Never buy a car from a professional seller/dealer, no matter if you're buying a new or a used car. It's not your job to feed him and his family. Never buy a car that was operated by someone who was not the owner (rental/leasing). Just be sure to check-out what you're buying... and by that I don't mean the cleanliness of the plastic cover of the engine... some decent research on the net can get you far.

Details like don't waste your brakes... use engine braking but without clutching excessively, otherwise you're wearing off your clutch. After braking to a halt, release the pedal from the brakes, otherwise you can't cool your pads and discs, they will thus wear faster. It's annoying for the people stopped behind you to see your brake lights anyway.

Do research regarding cars, don't go only by their reputation. VW has gearbox problems on their manual and automatic Polo and Golf since 3 generations, but won't admit it and people who don't do their research keep buying them :roll: Internet is your friend. Actually even on the Passat and the sistership Audi A4, you got to be careful to check your gearbox oil levels very frequently, otherwise the car won't last.
German cars, Japanese cars, Korena cars, Italian cars, French cars, American cars... they are all one worse than the other. The only thing is to get to know one car, so you can do most of the work on it yourself.

Once you start going to a garage, you never stop going. People who work in garages are very often very dishonest and will sabotage your car, so you can come back for a repair and spend another batch of money. It's not a joke, it's true. Don't go by their friendly behavior at the counters, they are big thieves. The prettier the garage, the bigger thieves they are. Very often they will damage something not on purpose while doing a job, but give it back without fixing it.
Dealers will charge you obscene amounts of money for simple repairs that you can do yourself. Get yourself a Hayne's manual of your car and you can do most jobs by yourself.
The "check-engine" light goes on? Take it to the garage and they will ask you 300 euro's to troubleshoot the "check engine" light and change all your diesel glow plugs. If you go on Ebay, you can buy an engine fault code reader for 15 euro's and change the one affected plug yourself for 30 euro's. 90% of the cases that's the reason for the check-engine light, although the garage will make you believe anything they want if they see that you don't know anything.

Buy oil in big cans of a reliable brand at the Makro or elsewhere if you find them cheaper, and buy consumables at car accessory/parts shops. Not at dealerships.

Never buy new tires, for 150 euro's you can get a good set of rims with good tires on them from someone who wants to get rid of them to make room for other stuff. At the tyre shop, they will steal 100 euro's each for tyres alone, tyres that you could puncture the day after. A balancing kit and tire repair kit is all you need.

Shop for insurance. Your insurance broker doesn't need to be the guy closest to your home. Go for the cheapest, even if he's 50km away. Send out requests to 100 brokers, compare and decide. Many will tell you that they don't like "shoppers" like yourself. Tell them that you don't like a broker that will swim in your hard-earned money. Every yearly renewal is an opportunity to have some fun shopping for insurance...

I once had to force one guy and his nearly- new Alfa Mito to stop on the highway's first resting area by making signals, after his car was smoking heavily. He told me that he just picked up his car from the Alfa garage after periodic maintenance. I told him: "well sir, you do know that the most frequent error in car maintenance is that they forget to put oil back in it after draining it?". "Have the garage install you a new engine and cooling system, because yours has lost a lot of life on it, but first ask your car's legal insurance to intervene in this matter. Don't just go back to the garage and let them pour oil in it as if nothing had happened!"

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Intresting input Flanker!

Yet not a totally correct comparison with domestic use of a vehicle. According to your calculations my car costs 0€/100km except for the Voordeel Alle Aard I'm contributing every month. But I don't think that is a fair assessement of the true cost of the car.

Nevertheless, seems to me you got it all figured out quite well as to how to minimize your cost/km :)

happy driving!

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i like to enjoy my ride, not drive like an cheap old grandpa
btw if you can get me a star diagnose for 15 euro i'm all ears ;)

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We're getting way off topic with all this, but let me just note you may know the cost of everything up to the cent, but seem to fail to understand the added value of going for the most convenient solution, flanker2.

It's perfectly fine to do as you do if cars and fiddling on them is your lifelong hobby, but otherwise the opportunity costs of going your way are going to be massive for most people. Indeed, whatever the subject is, a DIY approach is always going to be the cheapest solution for sure, but it takes time and effort to do it, something which comes with a value too, you know?

Ranging from complex things like building your own house to the simplest things like cutting your own hair, all are going to be cheaper if you do it yourself, but it you don't know what you're doing or aren't gifted with the needed talents for the venture undertaken, you may very well end up living half your life in a garden shed next to your never finished building project, groomed as if you've just been ran over by your neighbour's lawn mower.
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hahaha, I actually cried laughing :D

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sean1982 wrote:hahaha, I actually cried laughing :D
Well thank you very much!
What's more, it's actually inspired by somebody I happen to know for real!
You're not named Eddy, by any change, flanker2???? :shock:

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After this interesting discussion on minimising car costs, let's get back to the topic, please: 2013 CRL/EBCI latest news.

Thanks!
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Wizz Air follow FR protest:

(french only)

http://www.lesoir.be/284534/article/act ... ent-wallon

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In 'L'Echo', 17 July :
Le ministre des aéroports programme une concertation avec les opérateurs au sujet de cette taxe régionale qui, souligne-t-il, n'en est qu'à l'état de projet "pouvant être réapprécié" le moment venu, lorsque le budget devra être arrêté fin septembre.

That regional tax is just a preliminary scheme that could be reasessed in due time, when the budget is to be finalized, in september, after having consulted the CRL users.
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the golden rule is to not go to a garage except to a trusted garage and only for "heavy maintenance"
and if you were an actual aviator you would obviously be flying microlights AND doing your own maintenance (up to a certain level) :)


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Wizz to fly from Skopje to Brussels, Frankfurt and Paris

Wizz Air is basing a second plane at Skopje to serve new routes to Brussels Charleroi (CRL), Frankfurt Hahn (HHN) and Paris Beauvais (BVA).

From spring 2014, Wizz Air aims to serve 13 destinations from Skopje in Macedonia, where the low-cost carrier will base a second A320 from April 16.

As well as opening new routes to Brussels, Frankfurt and Paris, the new plane will help ramp up services to six current destinations.

Frequencies from Skopje will expand for Basel Mulhouse (MLH), Dortmund (DTM), Eindhoven (EIN), Gothenburg (GSE), Malmo (MMX) and Munich Memmingen (FMM).

Wizz also flies from its Macedonian base to London Luton (LTN), Milan Bergamo (BGY), Stockholm Skavsta (NYO) and Venice Treviso (TSF).
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http://www.venyo.aero/

Manufacturing of simulator in Gosselies/Charleroi.

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