Moderator: Latest news team
Actually, it's fifteen million, not fifteen thousend.Passenger wrote: Translated : "a new EU Rule states that airports with more then 15.000 passengers per year must have at least three luggage handlers instead of two".
The reason why I've mentionned the quote "15.000 passengers per year" and I've repeated it as "fifteen thousand" was to make clear that some members of parliament have no idea what they're talking about. This MP indeed thinks that the new EU Rule is for airports with more then 15.000 pax/year. She (indeed: it's a mrs) doesn't know that it's for airports with more then 15.000.000 pax/year.One MP said this yesterday: "...Ik wil erop wijzen dat het Europees Parlement op 18 april 2013 een nieuwe verordening heeft goedgekeurd waardoor men in de grote luchthavens met meer dan 15.000 passagiers per jaar van twee naar drie bagageafhandelaars moet gaan..." Translated : "a new EU Rule states that airports with more then 15.000 passengers per year must have at least three luggage handlers instead of two". Fifteen thousand. So Antwerp, Ostend, Liège, Charleroi : get ready !
And where did the cargo go?cnc wrote:on a lot of flights you don't get 60 pax so let alone 60 pax with 20kg bagsflightlover wrote:With 60 pax you only need 1 bag per pax filled to the allowed 20Kg to have that weight. And then you don't count bulk cargo in that number.cnc wrote:not to mention that an average of 1200kg per flight way too much is
do you want to make a bet with me? we'll start at apron 60 and move right up to apron 3.flightlover wrote: And where did the cargo go?
The Tunisair to TUN has a patent on heavy cargo peices. I could go on and on... Who says the airlines were going to use people which don't have the knowledge to operate the equipment. I'm sure airlines have people who had the necessary training. Moreover, maybe Swissport management ahve ahd such a training.Flanker2 wrote:Regarding refusing access to handling equipment, actually Wathelet's is acting outside his authority and the handling team leaders acted rightfully in denying this access.
Personnel with no training on handling and on the vehicles and equipment concerned shall not be allowed to operate said equipment
AirOpinion wrote:1200kg is a good average, certainly in the morning (ex-African bags, ex-Usa bags)... Offcourse you will have flights with payloads less then 500kg (BSL, BRS, ...) but you will also have flights with payloads over 3000KG (CMN, DME, AYT, ...).
It's true that mail is not cargo but... it is payload for sure! When you make that tour in the morning make sure you pass by the DME flight where the mail alone probalby weighs 1500kg, or the FCO where the fish is packed per 25kg and totals +2000kg. Or the Ukrainian with it endles row of cargo carts waiting to be loaded
Unless of all of that changed since I left flightcare 1,5 years ago...
so... Flightlover I'd make the bet!
At the rear of the cabin and around the aircraft it does Mather. And yes it is their job, but it doesn't mean you can act so 'hautain'. Without does guys around and at the back of the plane flying would get a hole less safe and pleasant.sean1982 wrote:AirOpinion wrote:1200kg is a good average, certainly in the morning (ex-African bags, ex-Usa bags)... Offcourse you will have flights with payloads less then 500kg (BSL, BRS, ...) but you will also have flights with payloads over 3000KG (CMN, DME, AYT, ...).
It's true that mail is not cargo but... it is payload for sure! When you make that tour in the morning make sure you pass by the DME flight where the mail alone probalby weighs 1500kg, or the FCO where the fish is packed per 25kg and totals +2000kg. Or the Ukrainian with it endles row of cargo carts waiting to be loaded
Unless of all of that changed since I left flightcare 1,5 years ago...
so... Flightlover I'd make the bet!
Why the hell does it matter?? It's their bloody job!! It doesn't matter if there is 5kg or 5000kg of cargo!
Should I go on strike cause my flights have over 80% loadfactor and I want it to be maximum 55%?
What the hell??
Because percentage is not really an issue regarding this strike... Weight is.cnc wrote:AirOpinion you talk about weight, i talk about flight percentage...
I agree that there is a choice... But that doesn't mean that I must find it humainsean1982 wrote:Why the hell does it matter?? It's their bloody job!! It doesn't matter if there is 5kg or 5000kg of cargo!
Should I go on strike cause my flights have over 80% loadfactor and I want it to be maximum 55%?
I'm a have a very liberal view on things... However I'm pretty good informed about this situation and thus I can understand the reason for this strike.Except for the thousands of passengers, awaiting their belongings.9vsmu wrote:strike is over, ops back to normal
So just because there is no written law that there have to be at least x workers at the airplane to load it, you think it is ok to have just 2 or 1 even. Those loaders are humans also. It's not as if every job has a minimum of workers needed stipulated in laws.sean1982 wrote:Yes, the typical answer around here, somebody said something I don't like, so let's go and whine to the mods to close ...
This has nothing to do with "hautain" smu, but everything with people NOT respecting other people's rights. If it would be a written rule somewhere that 4 people are mandatory to unload the aircraft, then nothing can be said by your direction. Obviously, such rule does not excist or did they intentionally break a law then? Respect I have for everybody, but not for holding people and their bags hostage and definatly not for people not respecting a contract between the union and management. You my friend, are living on another planet. Now call me childish if you like, just because you don't like my opinopn. Where Is the respect in that then?
the problem is those people don't know any better so they do what they are paid for, a lot of flightcare/swissport loaders have known very luxurious/lazy worktimes and they do not want things to change.sean1982 wrote: I see constantly at CRL 2 people load and unload the aircraft .... in 25 min. What's the problem?
Just for my information, which handling companies are present at CRL?sean1982 wrote:I see constantly at CRL 2 people load and unload the aircraft .... in 25 min. What's the problem?
only BSCA handlingsn26567 wrote:Just for my information, which handling companies are present at CRL?sean1982 wrote:I see constantly at CRL 2 people load and unload the aircraft .... in 25 min. What's the problem?
