Maastricht Airport in financial problems

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ralph
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Re: Maastricht Airport in financial problem

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LJ wrote: The only reason why many airlines moved to EIN is because it is just a better market. As mentioned before, there is not much economic activity around MST and Eindhoven is much more intersting for airlines than MST. Thus not ignorance but economic motive.
I agree about this one, EIN is probably economically more attractive, because its better situated for the southern part of the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany is handled by their local agents which use LGG and DUS/CGN. Looking back, 10-15 years ago, MST was in a far better position in the south for charter flights, EIN/LGG only had a few flights, but they lost it over time. But still with a local based travel agent/charter airline at that time with focus on this region things could have been a lot better.
LJ wrote: Yeah right, are you not forgetting why they went bankrupt? Apart from the issues surrounding the CEO, I recall they were bleeding (especially when KLM ended the co-operation with Air Exel). As the smallest aircraft in KLs fleet was the F50 (remember the SAABs were already gone), they couldn't do better than flying 3 daily . Or do you wanted them to fly more (half)empty F50s? Axing MST was the best thing to do as it freed up valuable AMS slots for more important flights.
As far as I know problems with Air Exel started after the CEO change, KLM pulled out when there were already problems. Untill the management change specially london/amsterdam flights were doing well.
KLM made a mess of it. I arrived several times on flights from the states, arrival was somewhere in the morning, next flight to MST was around 17:00, so 5-6 hours later, in Air Exel times schedules were much better. Also when they had to cancel a flight because of a problem with one of the F50's or weather related, it's very easy to give the MST passengers a train ticket instead of cancelling another destination, which happened a lot.
LJ wrote: Your example of ET doesn't add up. ET flew to AMS prior to the move to LGG. Thus the move has nothing to do with KL/MP. QR is also a bad example because you probably know QR will be flying EBB-AMS as of June 5th (and judging from the reaction of KL/MP they're not happy). The only issue is here with NBO-AMS, but look how many airlines are already serving that market (SQ and EK).
ET wanted to fly from AMS, then MST and finally went to LGG, because they didn't got the required rights to fly from AMS/MST. They were flying to BRU before their move. See http://www.hortibiz.com/detail/article/ ... ort-costs/
Turkish also had trouble with getting rights to MST from Africa. And I heard of others before having the same trouble, also on different routes.

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Re: Maastricht Airport in financial problems

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The question is : what an airport can provide that other can't.
And the best answers are :
1. night flights
2. easy and fast access from a high density population (for pax)
3. being as close as possible to the flower hubs/pharma hubs
4. strong political will
5. Trafic rights
6. more ? cheap workforce, space to extend, other logistic activities, ....
My messages reflect my personal opinion which may be different than yours. I beleive a forum is made to create a debate so I encourage people to express themselves, the way they want, with the ideas they want. I expect the same understanding in return.

LJ
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Re: Maastricht Airport in financial problem

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ralph wrote:ET wanted to fly from AMS, then MST and finally went to LGG, because they didn't got the required rights to fly from AMS/MST. They were flying to BRU before their move. See http://www.hortibiz.com/detail/article/ ... ort-costs/
Turkish also had trouble with getting rights to MST from Africa. And I heard of others before having the same trouble, also on different routes.
ET flew its cargo flights to AMS untill 1995 when the Dutch government banned them because they wouldn't let KL fly to ADD (and ET moved to OST). AFAIK, five years later ET returned at AMS with cargo flights. However, according to the article you quote MP didn't get traffic rights for ADD, which probably resulted in the Dutch government banning ET again a few years later (and ET moved to BRU). Thus it seems it's the Ethiopian government preventing ET from flying to AMS (or should you accept that an airline has a monopoly on a specific route?). I doubt that ET wants to oeprate to MST as they complain in the article you attached that they have to incurr extra transport costs (I doubt these are much lower from MST than from LGG).

http://www.nieuwsbladtransport.nl/Archi ... fault.aspx

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Re: Maastricht Airport in financial problems

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Some 7 years ago, when Maastricht Airport was privatised, the Dutch government granted 48,2 mio Euro "investment subisidies" because the state had failed to invest in the airport in the years prior to the privatisation.

The Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad now says that some 10 mio Euro from that money, aimed to be invested in the airport, has been used by the airport to buy a nearby office block and a hotel.

Sorry, it's too complicated to translate it all:
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2013/05/16/nrc ... -gebruikt/

(edit : typo error)

LJ
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Re: Maastricht Airport in financial problems

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The Dutch government has said that it wont give MAA any money. It's against EU law (if they ever wanted). Moreover, the British owner has said it won't invest anymore in MAA.

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