Thomas Cook will fly long haul with Belgium Exel

AirDupont · Post by **AirDupont** » 11 Feb 2004, 15:54

True,it took VG a long time before starting but I think a charter/Ad-hoc airline will need less time. VG did some charter flights before starting to the US.
How long did it take Birdy to require all the needed documents?? Not so long. In Belgium it's just who you are and then you get what you want.

Greetz

A318 · Post by **A318** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:01

The livery is the standard Exel livery, like this one from Bonair Exel:

Air Exel is also going to start in Italy under the name Granda Exel. GrandaExel will have scheduled services from Cuneo (Italy).
Looks like the Vlieger is taking control of something big, he has the experience and qualifications for it.

Greetz,

Erwin

Badabing · Post by **Badabing** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:02

Let's not compare the VG story with the average airline...

I saw a paint scheme draft for this B767 on VTM news (or was it on Canvas ?) last night. Has anyone seen this on the internet yet ?

TCAS_climb · Post by **TCAS_climb** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:16

Sorry if I missed something here, but on whose AOC are they planning to operate ?

NicoD · Post by **NicoD** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:21

I have heard that they would fly with a Belgian AOC of their own but haven't acquired one yet (yesterday on VRT's news).

NicoD :wave:

snowbird · Post by **snowbird** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:22

They don;t have a Belgium AOC yet, so theu have to use a flightnumer of antoher carrier. I can imagine that Thomas Cook Airlines wil give them a flightnumber (TC hires Holland Exel to operate a ICA flight). However teh CA's should be trained by Holland Exel (flight safety).
Did someone already wonder how Jetair will solve their ICA flight now TC will fly with Belgium Exel. Apparently, only TC contracted Belgium Exel.

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:42

L-1011 wrote:
Why lease a 767 from SAS , are they cheaper than those grounded in BRU

With the ones grounded in Bru I suppose you mean the Sobelair ones? Those 767's where a one of the big problems for Sobelair, It where those ac's that costed too much. DSF owned them and DSF didn't want to lower the leasing price. I suppose the SAS (older) ones where a whole lot cheaper!

snowbird · Post by **snowbird** » 11 Feb 2004, 16:56

Those B767 are the same aircraft as Air Holland en Holland Exel are leasing from the SAS against a extremely cheapleaserate (30% of what SLR paid for their B767 is the rumour). Hoallnd Exel will position one of their a/c to Brussel to operate those flights for TC

Post by **sn26567** » 12 Feb 2004, 10:10

snowbird wrote:Holland Exel will position one of their a/c to Brussel to operate those flights for TC...

... under the name BelgiumExel, as we know. But this aircraft will also operate some flights for Thomas Cook Netherlands during its spare time...

MD-11 · Post by **MD-11** » 12 Feb 2004, 10:25

If I book my vacation with VIP ( Tui ) in Jamaica which airline will fly us there then?

Post by **sn26567** » 12 Feb 2004, 10:53

MD-11 wrote:If I book my vacation with VIP ( Tui ) in Jamaica which airline will fly us there then?

Probably a Condor 757

MD-11 · Post by **MD-11** » 12 Feb 2004, 11:23

On VIP Selection's website I read something about the following planes and airlines they use now...
Transavia 737, Thomas Cook A320, Spanish LTE and German LTU A330
So I think it will be an A330 of LTU

Anyway, I mailed Tui about it.
Keep you posted. 8)

ostair · Post by **ostair** » 12 Feb 2004, 15:05

The JETAIR book mentions MARTINAIR or AIR JAMAICA from Brussels. So if its with Air Jamaica it will be with a A340. 8O

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 12 Feb 2004, 16:44

sn26567 wrote:
MD-11 wrote:If I book my vacation with VIP ( Tui ) in Jamaica which airline will fly us there then?
Probably a Condor 757

I don't think that Jetair/VIP selection/Sunjets all part of the World of TUI group will use a B 757-200 of their concurrent Thomas Cook!!!! But as mentioned above problably an Air Jamaica A340

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 16 Feb 2004, 19:49

The B767 for BelgiumExel will be PH-AHY

Greetz,

Dave

NicoD · Post by **NicoD** » 16 Feb 2004, 21:20

Hi

Thanks for this!! Where did you get this info from?

Greetz,
Nico :wave:

Jense · Post by **Jense** » 16 Feb 2004, 21:47

NicoD wrote:Hi

Thanks for this!! Where did you get this info from?

Greetz,
Nico :wave:

Please be more exactly...
On Thomas Cook's website
On TUI's website
Otherwise... on luchtzak

greettzzz

NicoD · Post by **NicoD** » 16 Feb 2004, 21:53

Indeed, that was the ground of my question... where are the details of this news; I don't see anything on Thomas Cook's website nor on TUI's and... what about the registration, will it stay one from Holland or will BelgiumExel get a real Belgian one?

NicoD :wave:

Sabena_690 · Post by **Sabena_690** » 16 Feb 2004, 22:24

My info says that ex-OY-KDM will become the B763 of Belgiumexel.

The aircraft is currently parked at BRU.

Frederic

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 17 Feb 2004, 07:39

it would be nice to see a 340 landing again in bru even if it is an air jamaica ... for the rest .. maybe exelstart soon , anybody knows or has pictures already ... and what about the PIA A310 is it still going to stay in bru???

greets

flying cobra