brussels airlines to New York!

[LJ]

For the african traveler, wouldn't the next step be a non-stop flight NYC to, say, Kinshasa?

Theoretically yes, but the US has something similar to the EU blacklist too you know?

The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) established the International Aviation Safety Assessments Program (in short: IASA) through public policy in August of 1992. Under this program, the FAA focuses on a country's ability to adhere to international standards and recommended practices for aircraft operations and maintenance established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

This classification is irrelevant as it's the TSA (or better Homeland security) who can prohibit nonstop flights if they view a country/airport not able to provide the necessary security. Hence why there are flights between Accra and the US but not between Nairobi and the US.

[tolipanebas]

Thank you both for these explanations. But what about a US carrier flying NYC-FIH then? Delta flies to Dakar and (I just checked) a non-stop return NYC-Dakar-NYC is cheaper than with a stop at CDG!

You are right that the IASA program only prohibits carriers from several African countries to serve the US, it does not prohibit a reciprocal serving of those countries by US carriers.

However, as LJ has explained already, there's more to this game then just aviation safety.

Safe US carriers can not just serve any destination they feel fit for, they need an approval of their government before actually picking up international traffic rights and this approval includes a very thorough security assessment of the planned destination: you can find loads of information on this from the US government on the web too, but basically it means US carriers will not easily be allowed to serve Central African places due to specific security issues, even if the country is a caterory 1 country from an aviation safety perspective.

[brusselsairlinesfan]

D-day - 3 !
Let's say that this brussels airlines link from BRU to NYC/JFK is a true/important come-back for belgian civil aviation...

[brusselsairlinesfan]

D-DAY - 2!
Anyone else embarking on the 1st brussels airlines BRU-JFK flight here?!

[Bralo20]

Anyone else embarking on the 1st brussels airlines BRU-JFK flight here?!

Affirmative. I'll be sitting in cattle, if my seatassignment holds up I'll be arround 32A (but hopefully 32C since I don't like the exit in my way) somewhere.

[WC_EEND]

If I hadn't had exams in June, I'd have jumped on the €400 fare when they announced the flights.

[convair]

Hopefully we'll be getting a good report with 2 "embedded correspondants" on the inaugural flight!

[Kapitein]

FYI, first flight to JFK will be flown by OO-SFM for the moment.

[HighInTheSky]

FYI, first flight to JFK will be flown by OO-SFM for the moment.

You can be pretty sure it will stay OO-SFM

BTW: SFM is the only one with the touchscreen's in C-class (SFW will get the same screens but for now pax have to use the remote in C) OO-SFV and others will have the correct screens aswel.

[Bralo20]

I've checked the availability of the flight this noon and nearly all bookingclasses had "9" as availability (exception to this is the "K" class which was the rock bottom fare of 400 EUR which has "2" as availability. SN's website however only gives "T" as the lowest fare for friday.

Anyway, it seemed that the first flight will be far from full...

However, it seems that it changed a bit compared to earlier:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.0/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

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BRU  Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FRI  01 Jun 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
SN         501     BRU   10:20     JFK   12:35     333      J4 C3 D2 Z1 P0 I0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 X0 Q4 V9 W8 S4 T4 E2 L3 K1

[brusselsairlinesfan]

To all people familiar with transatlantic flights, would you advice to seat on the right/left side of the plane during landing and take-off @ JFK? & BRU?

[KVS]

I've checked the availability of the flight this noon and nearly all bookingclasses had "9" as availability (exception to this is the "K" class which was the rock bottom fare of 400 EUR which has "2" as availability. SN's website however only gives "T" as the lowest fare for friday.

Anyway, it seemed that the first flight will be far from full...

However, it seems that it changed a bit compared to earlier:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.0/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

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BRU  Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FRI  01 Jun 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
SN         501     BRU   10:20     JFK   12:35     333      J4 C3 D2 Z1 P0 I0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 X0 Q4 V9 W8 S4 T4 E2 L3 K1

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q1

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.1/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]

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BRU  Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
R/T  01 Jun 2012 | All

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  ----------
SN         BRU     NYC       395   USD        ***  Sun  360  TKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       469   USD        ***  Sun  360  SKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       593   USD        ***  Sun  360  WKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       759   USD        ***  Sun  360  VKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       882   USD        ***  Sun  360  QKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      1067   USD        ***       360  HKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      1265   USD        ***       360  UKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      2005   USD        ***       360  MFFBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      2375   USD        ***       360  BFFBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      2377   USD    28 Days  Sun  360  ZNCBE2W
SN         BRU     NYC      2982   USD     7 Days    3  360  ZNCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      3439   USD        ***       360  ZFFBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      4199   USD        ***       360  Y77RT

[sn26567]

To all people familiar with transatlantic flights, would you advice to seat on the right/left side of the plane during landing and take-off @ JFK? & BRU?

To JFK, sit on the right side to avoid having the sun in your eyes during the flight. You don't know the runways for take-off and landing in BRU and JFK in advance, so this shouldn't matter.

[Bralo20]

Check-in is opened. Unfortunately I couldn't change my seats, probably since I had prearranged seats already. I'm currently in 32A and my uncle is in 32F (exit row)... Going to try to change it later to 32C and 32D.

T-1 and some hours

[brusselsairlinesfan]

To all people familiar with transatlantic flights, would you advice to seat on the right/left side of the plane during landing and take-off @ JFK? & BRU?

To JFK, sit on the right side to avoid having the sun in your eyes during the flight. You don't know the runways for take-off and landing in BRU and JFK in advance, so this shouldn't matter.

Very much appreciated... we will be on 15H & 15K seats together with my wife!

I've checked the availability of the flight this noon and nearly all bookingclasses had "9" as availability (exception to this is the "K" class which was the rock bottom fare of 400 EUR which has "2" as availability. SN's website however only gives "T" as the lowest fare for friday.

Anyway, it seemed that the first flight will be far from full...

However, it seems that it changed a bit compared to earlier:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.0/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code: Select all

BRU  Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FRI  01 Jun 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
SN         501     BRU   10:20     JFK   12:35     333      J4 C3 D2 Z1 P0 I0 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 X0 Q4 V9 W8 S4 T4 E2 L3 K1

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q1

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.1/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]

Code: Select all

BRU  Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
R/T  01 Jun 2012 | All

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  ----------
SN         BRU     NYC       395   USD        ***  Sun  360  TKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       469   USD        ***  Sun  360  SKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       593   USD        ***  Sun  360  WKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       759   USD        ***  Sun  360  VKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC       882   USD        ***  Sun  360  QKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      1067   USD        ***       360  HKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      1265   USD        ***       360  UKRCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      2005   USD        ***       360  MFFBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      2375   USD        ***       360  BFFBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      2377   USD    28 Days  Sun  360  ZNCBE2W
SN         BRU     NYC      2982   USD     7 Days    3  360  ZNCBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      3439   USD        ***       360  ZFFBEW
SN         BRU     NYC      4199   USD        ***       360  Y77RT

Can someone explain that?

As this is the 1st flight, one can suppose that there will be mostly O&D PAX?!

Can't wait for boarding...

Vincent (french/parisian SN fan)

[airbuske]

Anyway, it seemed that the first flight will be far from full...

Nope, flight will be almost full

[Bralo20]

Nope, flight will be almost full

Damn, I hoped that the seat next to me would remain free.

[Zorba]

To all people familiar with transatlantic flights, would you advice to seat on the right/left side of the plane during landing and take-off @ JFK? & BRU?

I always take a seat on the right site inbound to the US since you have a bigger chance to see beautiful landscapes Left side is sea only (normally).

[brussels airlines]

Meanwhile, the new uniforms can be viewed via this link: http://company.brusselsairlines.com/en_ ... adors.aspx

And the corresponding press release: http://company.brusselsairlines.com/en_ ... fault.aspx

[Homo Aeroportus]

Meanwhile, the new uniforms can be viewed via this link: [url]http://company.brusselsairlines.com/en_be/....

Thanks for that link.
Interesting. On this site, the fleet is listed as consisting in :
22 Avros, "about"(sic) 10 RJ85s + 12 RJ100s
9 A319
2 A320
5 A333
a mix of 8 B733/734
zero A332 though.



H.A.