"Brussels Airlines new US destination"-poll

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Discuss in the following topic: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=45247

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[luchtzak]

New York JFK is taking an early lead with 72%

[cathay belgium]

@luchtzak :

It depends and how you understand the poll !

My votes:

What do you think : BOS ( better opportunities, less concurrence )

What do you wish : JFK ( looks great on history/timetables ,..)



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[sn26567]

What do you think : BOS ( better opportunities, less concurrence )

What do you wish : JFK ( looks great on history/timetables ,..)

I guess that SN will make a choice according to people's wishes rather than opportunities with little traffic...

[luchtzak]

The webmaster forgot to mention Cincinatti, some people told me that it was THE most profitable Sabena route to the US !

[sn26567]

.. and San Francisco often mentioned as a possible second US destination.

[Bralo20]

.. and San Francisco often mentioned as a possible second US destination.

Yeah but not possible with the early A333's...

However if they indeed go for the A332's then that's another story.

[tolipanebas]

Cincinatti may have been luctative for Sabena, but only because it was a hub of then partner airline DL.

Serving it now (without hub partner) would be a guarantee for failure, given there's no point to point market either.

[Coronado]

Why not boldly go where no-one has gone before : BWI !
Check out this convenient hassle-free airport serving the Washington Baltimore area.
No direct international competition ( apart from a one-weekly LHR flight operated by BA ).

[laexsn]

CVG was the most profitable gateway but only partly because of the DL hub. Chiquita Brands, Procter and Gamble and a few smaller corporate accounts booked high yield traffic which made the 5/7 schedule lucrative. When SN ceased its CVG operations, P&G ran a charter flight to BRU. Resuming CVG would be foolish, as would be operating into BWI which is mainly a low cost airport with limited feeder traffic and dominated by WN.

A JFK flight would compete with AA, an airline that has better feed out of JFK than Star Alliance carriers. More opportunities exist for a late afternoon or evening flight from BRU to EWR and a late departure from EWR. Star Alliance feeder traffic out of EWR is excellent, and the airport supports the NYC catchment area well.

West Coast flights are unprofitable if only one aircraft can be used for the rotation - CityBird demonstrated that in the past. Boston generates lower yield traffic, Atlanta and Dallas are in competing territory.

Ideally, UA/CO would put in a second EWR flight and launch IAH-BRU service.

[Air Key West]

Ideally, imho, b.air would have

a first flight to NYC leaving BRU at 8 am / back at 5 am +1
to offer optimal connections with the first flights back from AFI
and optimal connections with the first European flights out of BRU

a second flight to NYC leaving BRU around 10 am / back at 8:30 am +1
to offer connections with the second wave of flights coming from AFI
and to offer connections to the first wave of flights to AFI

and a third evening flight from BRU which would be back in time to connect to the last flights to AFI leaving BRU after 1400 hours.

Although this would be the only way to compete efficiently with AF/KL and BA to AFI, this is not on b.air's agenda. Just a timid one flight. Better than nothing, but it shows that the bankers who run b.air have no real confidence in their airline ; otherwise they would find the money to have more long haul aircraft more quickly. CEOs who do not believe in their company should be sent home without any bonus. Someboby, of course, is going to say I am too radical.

My vote in this poll went to EWR, because b.air's US flight will not be able to be profitable by carrying only or mainly pax connecting in BRU to AFI. It would be useful to also be able to count on connections from/to other cities in the US, which EWR is in a better position to offer than JFK (forget minimal connections with JetBlue). JFK and EWR are equally convenient for people coming from New York City.

[antoine72]

Atlanta is also possible

The first flight from europe in atlanta was a sabena flight from Brussels ! Don't forget that

[cnc]

Atlanta is also possible

The first flight from europe in atlanta was a sabena flight from Brussels ! Don't forget that

times have changed... ATL is a DL' and skyteam fortress.