SN made a net profit over 2010, according 'De Tijd'

[azingrew]

If you book 4 seats in one transaction I believe you pay the credit card fee only once ie: 7 €. But what about Jetairfly which charges 15 € credit card fee per transaction, now that's a rip off..

[b720]

you don t.. u pay it per pax booked..

[b720]

we are aware of the price of oil.. SN should increase the fuel fee not the credit card fee. People are not stupid.
This is a way to gain more revenue while undermining their clients' intelligence. That fee - credit card fee - is
not collected from pax booking from abroad or with BRU as a destination. Fee is calculated when booking a flight with BRU point of origin. Lovely way to reward their loyal clients from back home..

[tolipanebas]

Yet you don't have to pay this; it's only if you want to buy on credit that you pay a fee for it.

[b720]

true, but most people pay with a credit card when booking from a website. on the other hand most other airlines (except LCCs) don t charge credit card fees.

[tolipanebas]

true, but most people pay with a credit card when booking from a website. on the other hand most other airlines (except LCCs) don t charge credit card fees.

Most people may indeed have built an instinctive habit of always wanting to use their credit card for online transactions, but this happens to cost money to the seller (around 3% of the transaction goes to the card company, if I am not mistaken) whereas we have perfectly safe and equally convenient online payment methods in Belgium which are completely free for both buyer and seller.

Do you think it is weird SN tries to stimulate Brussels based customers (and only those) who do have the possibility to use these cost free money transfer methods, to actually use them?

With cut-throat oil prices, there's no more room to take on unnecesarry costs like credit card fees for Belgian residents.

[RoMax]

BTW, for the ones wo are interested, seat capacity this summer will increase with 709 000 seats compared to summer 2010. That's a seat capacity increase of 10%!
- New destinations: Lamezia Terme, Agadir, Marrakech (all 1 weekly)
- Bilbao, Prague and Athens will get an extra daily flight
- Malaga, Faro and Palma de Mallorca will get more flights in the summer months
- The weekend offer to Madrid, Lyon and Florence will be expanded
- Flight hours to Marseille and Venice will change (evening flights compared to afternoon flights past summer I think)
- More charters for Club Med and Thomas Cook to Tunisia, Egypt, Corsica, Sardinia...
- A319 will replace RJ's on VIE, GVA, HAM, GOT, TXL... A320 will fly to AGP, BCN, TLV...

Weekly 806 flights, 28 more than in summer 2010 and 63 more than this winter.

In Dutch:
http://trends.rnews.be/nl/economie/belg ... 484078.htm

So if SN is able to fill these 709 000 seats without making their yields terrible, their is a bright summer ahead. Hopefully they succeed, toghether with LH (and Star).

[becareful]

Dear all,

As already mentioned indirectly by our friend tolipanebas, you don't need to use a credit card when you book a ticket on Brussels Airlines.

In contrast with several other airlines like Ryanair, Easy and co Brussels Airlines offers you the possibility with popular debit cards WITHOUT transaction fees. Examples: Bancontact, ING Homepay, KBC Online, Cash Ticket, Dexia Netbanking and IDEAL. So is SN ripping you off? No when you use these payment methods there is no cost involved... The airlines that are really ripping you off are the ones who force you to use Credit Cards like VISA, American Express and co

[Bralo20]

American Express and co

SN has 2 AMEX cards on offer... So in fact they promote creditcards...

[Flogger]

If you've transported more passengers (even though you've also increased capacity) and you've also improved your result while operating the same fleet as before, knowing costs must have risen significantly, somehow YIELD must have gone up too and by even more, which is what ultimately this is all about really: LF is just an indicative performance figure to quickly measure current performance with and thus estimate results; once those results are known however, LF isn't the best figure to discuss performance with any longer..

Not necessarily.
I believe that there was a discussion about 2009 results where it was mentioned that the 2009 results were adversely affected by a 80 million fuel hedging loss. However I do not remember if this was included into the operational result or into the net consolidated result.
Without the hedging loss, SN would have been way in the green in 2009.

Unless we see the whole picture it's not possible to compare apples with apples.

[sn26567]

This and more can be read in Dutch under this link:

http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/ondernemingen ... .art?ckc=1

It is also available in French in De Tijd's sister newspaper L'Echo: http://www.lecho.be/nieuws/archief/Brus ... ines&ckc=1

[sn26567]

BTW, for the ones wo are interested, seat capacity this summer will increase with 709 000 seats compared to summer 2010. That's a seat capacity increase of 10%!

In Dutch:
http://trends.rnews.be/nl/economie/belg ... 484078.htm

And in English, courtesy of Luchtzak: viewtopic.php?p=246354#p246354