EK expanding to BRU ?

[Kar]

HAM, VIE, GVA, will BRU be the next station for Emirates?

[Conti764]

HAM, VIE, GVA, will BRU be the next station for Emirates?

Who knows... But BRU was skipped in all recent additions so far. With the rate of new planes coming in at Emirates I'm pretty sure they will fly to BRU one day.

But we also have Etihad (soon 8 weekly flights) and recently Qatar (currently 5 weekly but probably a daily service by years end) and to be honest, I find these airlines quite some more intresting then Emirates. EK seems to fly to anywhere in the world whereas EY and QR are more exclusive imho.

And you can bet that when EK enters the Belgian market with dump rates to e.g. BKK, you can probably forget TG some day opening up a route between BRU and BKK for example...

[regi]

HAM, VIE, GVA, will BRU be the next station for Emirates?

Who knows... But BRU was skipped in all recent additions so far. With the rate of new planes coming in at Emirates I'm pretty sure they will fly to BRU one day.
But we also have Etihad (soon 8 weekly flights) and recently Qatar (currently 5 weekly but probably a daily service by years end) and to be honest, I find these airlines quite some more intresting then Emirates. EK seems to fly to anywhere in the world whereas EY and QR are more exclusive imho.

And you can bet that when EK enters the Belgian market with dump rates to e.g. BKK, you can probably forget TG some day opening up a route between BRU and BKK for example...

With the succes of Etihad and Qatar, I think that there is somebody at Emirates who has made a wrong decision. ( and we see that Jet Airways as well nibbles on the Thai market )
The rates to BKK are already cheap: 495 € in May with Etihad. Yes, return included and no extra surcharge for luggage, meal or boarding pass
TG has been here in the days that Sabena and Sobelair also flew to Thailand. With TG in Star Alliance, they would have to compete against the routes of Lufthansa and Swissair with 1 stop. TG has never been cheap. And considering the recent bankrupty of Best Tours who brought a lot of tourists into the kingdom at bargain prices, I doubt if it is profitable for a non stop flight BRU-BKK. TG does still transport some Belgian traffic towards Thailand ( over Frankfurt or Munich ) , otherwise their nice office at Brussels would have been closed years ago.
Coming back to Emirates, I think they would have a point in the conflict with Canada
If other airlines may use BRU as a fuel stop towards Canada , why not Emirates ?

[leketdelaviation]

EK flies direct to YUL-YYZ no need to stop in BRU or any other european station for tech stop.
Even considering yield purposes the market is saturated on YUL-YYZ out of BRU with the presence of AC operating 4 weekly flights out of BRU with a 767-3 and as from March back on daily flights but this time with a A332, consider also JetAirways operating direct flights to YYZ in code share with AC....
And during summer season Air Transat operates daily flights direct to YUL....... EK has no reasons and no market to operate such flights out of BRU other than just serve directly between DXB-BRU-DXB..

[Atlantis]

TG has been here in the days that Sabena and Sobelair also flew to Thailand. With TG in Star Alliance, they would have to compete against the routes of Lufthansa and Swissair with 1 stop. TG has never been cheap. And considering the recent bankrupty of Best Tours who brought a lot of tourists into the kingdom at bargain prices, I doubt if it is profitable for a non stop flight BRU-BKK. TG does still transport some Belgian traffic towards Thailand ( over Frankfurt or Munich ) , otherwise their nice office at Brussels would have been closed years ago.

Hi,

On a side note: TG will not fly directly to BRU. They will made a stop first at Athens before flying further to BRU (if they come of course).

Best Tours is indeed bankrupt but was taking over by Kuoni, the name Best Tours still excists.
When we speak about tourists who are visiting BKK: the Belgian touroperators are working together with Jet Airways and Etihad Airways.
Best Tours announced as first one to work together with Qatar Airways.

When you ask my personal opinion about EK. I hope that they will not come to BRU. Emirates is like Ryanair, they fly to every airport bacause of the fact that they have so many planes (thats the only comparison between the two airlines).

Don't forget the smaller Oman Air. They were looking to open two new European destinations. Milan Malpensa is the lucky one to welcome them.

[regi]

Why would we not welcome Emirates? Or Ryanair at Brussels ?
As long as it is a win-win situation for passengers, employees, companies, state interests, airports I don't mind.
But I do mind that companies which have become so big that they can change/ignore local legislation, push "normal" behaving companies out of the market with backdoor practices.
Example: imagine that Emirates comes to Brussels and insists that ground personnel is forbidden to go on strike.

[Outsync]

Why would we not welcome Emirates? Or Ryanair at Brussels ?
As long as it is a win-win situation for passengers, employees, companies, state interests, airports I don't mind.
But I do mind that companies which have become so big that they can change/ignore local legislation, push "normal" behaving companies out of the market with backdoor practices.
Example: imagine that Emirates comes to Brussels and insists that ground personnel is forbidden to go on strike.

Their own ground staff or the handlers? In the latter they have no legal paw to stand on.

[Air Key West]

As far as I know contracts between companies in one given country must comply with the national legistation of that country. So, I doubt an airline could conclude a contract with a provision prohibiting ground staff from striking (since strikes are allowed under Belgian legislation).

I also find it difficult to compare Emirates and Ryanair. Emirates is a full-service airline, Ryanair is not.
Ryanair thrives on local and regional subsidies. Emirates may get tax facilities in the emirate of Dubai, but at least does not count, as far as I know, on tax payers money from the countries to which they fly.

As regards airlines or companies that have become so big that they can ignore local legislation : if this happen it is up to the local and national authorities to see to it that the applicable legilsation is complied with.

And still on airlines getting too big, well, since the AF-KL merger, I have noticed nothing but lack of respect for their pax from both AF and KL. AF has tried to kick out all competitors in France (and succeeded in ousting Air Littoral and Air Lib, and to some extent, indirectly also FR from SXB a few years ago).

But this is slightly off topic. Honestly, I don't see why Emirates would not be welcome in BRU ? They are a full-service airline with their pros and cons (nobody is perfect). I'd prefer FR to stay in CRL : CRL is the perfect airport for LCCs.

And if TG does not come to BRU because there is already too much competition, too bad. They should have come first and they should offer more competitive fares. Don't forget there is not only the point-to-point traffic. Beyond BKK, TG can offer connections to a substantial number of cities in Asia and Australia.

I have not flown EK recently and they are not among my favorites airlines (but I still find them to be OK from a pax point of view). So, I don't understand why some members on this forum would not welcome them. Unless it is for protectionnist reasons.

[regi]

And if TG does not come to BRU because there is already too much competition, too bad. They should have come first and they should offer more competitive fares. Don't forget there is not only the point-to-point traffic. Beyond BKK, TG can offer connections to a substantial number of cities in Asia and Australia.

Right.
And don't forget that TG flew towards Brussels already. They have been here before.
In Dutch we say "Weglopers zijn plaatsverkopers" meaning: if you leave your place, you have sold it.

[LJ]

When you ask my personal opinion about EK. I hope that they will not come to BRU. Emirates is like Ryanair, they fly to every airport bacause of the fact that they have so many planes (thats the only comparison between the two airlines).

Can you explain what makes Ek different from Qatar?

With the succes of Etihad and Qatar, I think that there is somebody at Emirates who has made a wrong decision. ( and we see that Jet Airways as well nibbles on the Thai market )

Depends on how you mean with success. Nobody knows the yields of the EY and QR flight. Furthermore, I think EK has had to decide between AMS and BRU and they probably viewed that they could make more money at AMS. It's not like EK has too many airplanes flying around (on the contrary I think that EK would have liked to have more aircraft as some destinations are asking for extra flights