Fuel price is rising

[Mcl5306]

Jet fuel prices are rising again and every fuel efficiency measure is welcome.
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[tolipanebas]

Yeah, don't get us started on this...

I think all crews have noticed it already: at least my company is again spending a lot of time and effort bombarding us with "great new ideas" on fuel efficiency and stuff like that.

Whereas it is obviously a great plan to reduce fuelconsumption and thus costs if you can, it should be clear to all it has become an automatism for most crews already, yet it seems managers just can't accept the low hanging fruit has long been plucked by now.

In stead they exhaust themselves in coming up with ever more complicated operational concepts full of variable pre-conditions which needlessly said greatly increase the operational as well as the administrative workload of their crews before, during and after their flights, while at the same time they refuse to accept that all these "great new ideas" are having only a marginal impact on the bottom line of the company as a whole, as they not only result in a direct cost saving (less fuel) but also have much harder to quantify but nevertheless really existing negative impacts from offering a reduced pax comfort which can make pax prefer other airlines for instance.

I know it is something which is said easily to make a point, but I really know of at least one company for instance which avoids flying SN on a certain route where they have a choice because they have had it with all the physical discomforts at SN from their extreme focus on fuel cost saving measures like making pax board ice-cold or freaking hot planes or the quite common headaches in cruise, just because SN is too much of a cheap charlie and thus refuses to precondition their cabin in the morning or use max airflow in cruise, whereas the competitor on that route clearly does and thus offers more physical comfort.

Since managers like to have quantitive data to work with:
this company I am talking about books between 10 to 15 fully flexible return tickets a week on this route. Now, that's a lot of lost revenues for a marginal 'cost saving' especially as I don't think this company is the only one voting with its feet.

[fcw]

Tolip, last time I flew BruAir, on a FREE ticket, to Geneva, I paid 64€ (=100l) for the fuel.
So BruAir is charging pax more than the actual fuel cost...

[earthman]

or the quite common headaches in cruise, just because SN is too much of a cheap charlie and thus refuses to precondition their cabin in the morning or use max airflow in cruise, whereas the competitor on that route clearly does and thus offers more physical comfort.

Does what you do to the air long before a flight indeed affect air quality during the flight?

[flightlover]

or the quite common headaches in cruise, just because SN is too much of a cheap charlie and thus refuses to precondition their cabin in the morning or use max airflow in cruise, whereas the competitor on that route clearly does and thus offers more physical comfort.

Does what you do to the air long before a flight indeed affect air quality during the flight?

No it doesn't, that just makes the boarding a bit nicer as the plane is on room temp inside.
However the airflow in flight does. As all air has to be filtered to prevent CO2 intoxication. If CO2 levels get to high, it give you headaches. (the mildest consequence)

[FlightMate]

I remember when Management came with the idea of flying with the packs on recirc instead of fresh, just to save some kgs of fuel, many years ago.

On a long flight, we couldn't get any warming. (temp around 15°)
It took us some time to realise this was due to the new procedure. You would think these kind of disagrements would be explained to the crew before a new procedure is implemented...

And you are right Tolip, I know some people avoid flying with SN in winter, because temp is 2° in the aircraft when they board.