Registration SN3811 BRU-OPO 20 Dec: Is disclosure a risk?

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Naw, it is being held for a trebled security check, seeing the risk increase from our inside information suddenly exposed to the public at large. Actually, I heard a rumour of the deicing fluid being microscopically verified. Takes some doing at 1cc per shot.

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Security have done checks for less than this. A hunch or a forgotten bag...
Nah, probably lack of equipment.

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Hi,
regi wrote:There is 1 specific Asian airline that always has top priority.
This must be El Al I guess, since P-magazine reported last summer the very secret thing
that MOSSAD is active at BRU and our own police may not interfere their actions.
Yeah, P-magazine has more to see/read than beautiful women.. ;)
NCB wrote:Mr. Luchtzak, please cancel my membership as soon as possible.
Attention NCB, this is the second time !!, next third..
NCB wrote:Spontaneously providing reg info is also different from answering a request for a reg.
Who knows, maybe this bxleu guy was smuggling drugs and wanted someone to tell him in advance which aircraft he should deposit it on. The same could be done with a bomb.
What will learn us by this fact..

Oh yes, that there are better ways to treat a flight , blackmailing working Airport Personnel...,
weapons at Steenokkerzeel, as I said before their were better ways to act as terrorism than a reg..
And indeed, at AMS the reg is standard on their site, but hey as NCB video/youtube told us, AMS
is the perfect hot spot for terrorists..

Why would we bother at BRU ? Less flights ,less pax, less international flights haha :mrgreen:
NCB wrote:But I think that this forum is special (like airliners.net), in the sense that there is no common sense.
Just useless debates where there is nothing to debate about to start with, only people exploring the outer limits of reality and seeking internet status by publishing confidential company information.

So NCB, I must admit I may asking you why you are still at luchtzak.be , one of my favourite sites ! ,
as there is no common sense and seeking internet status...
Maybe you're right and I know a member who just fit in your opinions ... :lol:
useless debates : this topic, as AMS is giving the regs standard ??
outer limits: flying catering around AFI to support a load of A319's
NCB wrote:But don't worry, Tolipanebas always has a captain sitting next to him.
and some secret air-marshall behind .. who knows,now we're on war.. 8-)
NCB, who are we fighting to ? Just I wanted to know because I'm shopping tommorow at BRU Nieuwstraat,
at I wanted to look out for some..
tangolima wrote:@ Cathay Pacific What was your registration by the way. ?


My flight with knife was Easyjet BRU-SXF 23 June 2010 reg G-EZAA ETD 08h55 EZY 4702.
NCB wrote:Unfortunately, satellites can't shoot yet and they can't cover every corner either
Sorry I must tell you, is not because they (USA) didn't used it active in public already that they
can't, if I guess what X-plane landed last month secretly after a few months in space..
No I don't have or share secret info on this forum but I can guess... :lol:
and besides.. there are NO nuclear weapons at Kleine Brogel AFB ;)
NCB wrote:If you thought that AF1 only has chaffs, flares and jamming to protect itself, you are very naive.
Same remark, we all can guess but we don't know or were you besides working for SN also for CIA.. :mrgreen:
NCB wrote:Why is this flight delayed by this much time when other flights are operating with 2 or 3 hours delay?

Is it an operational or security delay?
Ohhhh yes, now besides the real journalists take over some info from luchtzak ..
now also SN and homeland safety departments ..
Luchtzak.be were becoming a truely famous respected site I guess despites some other active members
have another viewpoint of us ...
NCB wrote:Nah, probably lack of equipment.
:o
If you're working for SN, there is probably also a article of making your company looking
in a bad light on public areas, I know I have one ...

Oh yes, I was right I had a big laugh after all.... THX.. guys..

Besides , already a reg for flight BRU-CTA on SN 20/2/2011, tolepanebas if you're my pilot
can I get a jumpseat ? So the pax can be awared that there are at least 2 men in the cockpit living in the real world ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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OO-JFP wrote:It"s still on the ground. New departure time 19.40 according to the Brussels airport website.
New actual departure time was 20:00 (8 hrs late). Registration OO-VES. This is the final answer to the initial question.
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sn26567 wrote:Registration OO-VES.
:D

Have a nice and safe flight bxleu !!
Hope you can return safe with the deicing-and snow problems..
Enjoy a port ! and thx for a remarkable topic !

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NCB wrote:Don't worry, Tolipanebas always has a captain sitting next to him.
yep, once a year, during the annual line check, that is. :mrgreen:

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OO-VES now coming back with a very strange callsign: "OPOBRU1". Is this a conspiracy? ;)

Arrival at BRU scheduled 01:19.
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NCB wrote:Spontaneously providing reg info is also different from answering a request for a reg.
Who knows, maybe this bxleu guy was smuggling drugs and wanted someone to tell him in advance which aircraft he should deposit it on...
Euhm, the one coming from the airport where they embarked the drugs, or is this too simple? :?

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NCB wrote:
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Perhaps the lack of military service is what makes the youth of today fall short on these matters?
Dear NCB, I assume that your word "perhaps" means that you have not performed military duty in a real combat unit, where enlisted privates were sent in the field with little training, causing terrible accidents.
I have performed my military duty in such a unit. ( got extra seperate training in Belgium and abroad, and am still attached to the military ) I have seen enough. I would not like my son ( who is a unresponsable young adult ) to become victim of frustrated, alcoholic professional soldiers. Look at Russia.
In my unit - during military service alone - we had multiple shooting accidents. We had multiple road accidents with 15 wounded in 1 accident of who some never returned to duty. We had in our bataljon several succeeded suicides due to mistreatment by professional soldiers. The unsuccesful ones were sent to prison and/or locked up in a sealed psychiatric wing of Neder Over Heembeek.
Most of conscripts had a leazy time. ( the same ones that you wrongly think who would improve their behaviour by military service ) But for some it was hell.
Last example: during the first Gulf War Belgium had sent a ship to the Gulf. The operation took 1 life: a marine conscript disappeared in the Suez Canal, suicide. Great education...
I must admit that at some times I have the same idea: " In my days it would have been different !"
But realisticly speaking, those days are gone, and I hope for all those young people that they will not come back.

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cathay belgium wrote:Hi,
regi wrote:There is 1 specific Asian airline that always has top priority.
This must be El Al I guess, since P-magazine reported last summer the very secret thing
that MOSSAD is active at BRU and our own police may not interfere their actions.
Yeah, P-magazine has more to see/read than beautiful women.. ;)

CX-B
I cannot disclose that specific Asian airline
And please, dear Cathay, don't give the impression that we see P Magazine as a reliable source. :roll:
Interference against secret services e.g. mossad : there is a difference in interfering their on going affairs or reacting on illegal activities. Example where I was involved: in a restricted area we see a male non-native person coming out of a car with normal nr. plates. As he steps out of the car, we see he carries a hand weapon under his jacket. We summon him to surrender. He reacts that he is embassy blablabla. But he has to hit the deck in the dirt, and he did because he immediately saw we were not police but military and would react differently. ( no, at those moments you don't call in a ministry to ask what you must do ) The person did not have a diplomatic passport, carried a special hand weapon ( loaded, checked by my mate) and said again to contact his embassy ( without saying which one :) ), showing off that we would receive punishment. Nope. We checked the entire car and found more stuff. Interesting. Our superior arrived and the culprit again started to showw off. Wrong. We loaded all the stuff in 1 vehicle and drove off. The culprit was handed over to local police. They released him after arrest because he was embassy related. The confiscated stuff was handed over to Belgian Military intel by special transport. Not to police, mossad, embassy guys whatever. Oh yes, forgot that this happened outside Belgium ;)

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cathay belgium wrote:Hi,
regi wrote:There is 1 specific Asian airline that always has top priority.
This must be El Al I guess, since P-magazine reported last summer the very secret thing
that MOSSAD is active at BRU and our own police may not interfere their actions.
Yeah, P-magazine has more to see/read than beautiful women.. ;)
No matter how much I appreciate P-Magazine for their articles, this story was a bullshitstory. There is no Mossad active at the airport, or at least not in the service that was mentioned in the article of P-Magazine.

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Conti764 wrote:
cathay belgium wrote:Hi,
regi wrote:There is 1 specific Asian airline that always has top priority.
This must be El Al I guess, since P-magazine reported last summer the very secret thing
that MOSSAD is active at BRU and our own police may not interfere their actions.
Yeah, P-magazine has more to see/read than beautiful women.. ;)
No matter how much I appreciate P-Magazine for their articles, this story was a bullshitstory. There is no Mossad active at the airport, or at least not in the service that was mentioned in the article of P-Magazine.
No activity of the secret service of Israel at Zaventem? And their own interrogation squad before boarding, is that the boy scouts of Zaventem?

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regi wrote: No activity of the secret service of Israel at Zaventem? And their own interrogation squad before boarding, is that the boy scouts of Zaventem?
I was under the impression that in Israel they teach interrogation techniques in elementary school. Doesn't Mossad have better things to do than interrogate passengers?

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regi wrote: No activity of the secret service of Israel at Zaventem? And their own interrogation squad before boarding, is that the boy scouts of Zaventem?
At least it's no Mossad.

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Conti764 wrote:
regi wrote: No activity of the secret service of Israel at Zaventem? And their own interrogation squad before boarding, is that the boy scouts of Zaventem?
At least it's no Mossad.
Right, OK, I admit. I presume that the training of the airport security personnel falls under the Shin Bet.

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FYI NCB decided to leave this website, I had to cancel his account upon his request.

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luchtzak wrote:FYI NCB decided to leave this website, I had to cancel his account upon his request.
This time it wasn't my fault.

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cathay belgium wrote:
sn26567 wrote:Registration OO-VES.
:D

Have a nice and safe flight bxleu !!
Hope you can return safe with the deicing-and snow problems..
Enjoy a port ! and thx for a remarkable topic !

CX-B
Actually it was a very tiring and not that pleasant experience!
Indeed, we first left the gate at 18:39 after being delayed a few times (appartently OO-VES was stuck in LHR) and after a technical problem (don't ask me what...). On the way to the runway a passenger felt some kind of liquid dropping on him (not joking, I was seating nearby and saw it!) and we had to turn around for inspection, safety first! Two technicians got in and said all was ok, even though they didn't seem to know what was that...
We eventually took off at 20:00! But that was not all: when approaching OPO airport the pilot decided to go around because there was an aircraft on the runway. A few more minutes in the air...
Passengers on B.light got free drinks and some sweet stuff to compensate for all the trouble, even though we got food vouchers while at BRU.

The flight back was much better, this time on TAP executive! :D

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liquid: I have seen passengers been really showered during take off from Saigon on a AF old B747 -300 I think. It was condensation that had gathered at some point and when the bird went up, all the water came down through the ventilation hole or the breathing mask cover. Dreadful experience for those passengers.
Yes, it was the same flight with the frantic bat criscrossing the cabin for 90 minutes. AF, what a laugh... :)

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