new A319 for SN

[Bralo20]

The two Mexicana A319's for SN are quiet new, just only a few months old

If this is the case then it will be 2 of the following

N204MX, MSN 4204, EIS March 2010
N254MX, MSN 4252, EIS April 2010
N275MX, MSN 4275, EIS June 2010

All stored by the lessor at the moment...

[RoMax]

What I've heard is, two pretty new A319's of Mexicana. One from 2009 and one from early 2010.

Any idea about the two other A319's and the two A320's?

[airbuske]

A319: one ex hamburg
A320: D-ALTC and D-ALTD ?!

[RoMax]

A319: one ex hamburg
A320: D-ALTC and D-ALTD ?!

So at least 3 pretty new A319's. The oldest A319 of Hamburg International is D-AHIH, MSN3364, EIS January 2008. The newest D-AHIO, MSN3872, EIS May 2009.

Are you sure about the A320's? These are LTU aircraft now flying in Air Berlin colors:

D-ALTC, MSN1441, EIS April 2001
D-ALTD, MSN1493, EIS June 2001

So they will be something like 10 year when joining SN.

[Lamal]

For the A320's: I can confirm ALTC and ALTD are inspected by SN as potential SN-birds.

For A319: D-AHIH is the one...

and also have a look at N275MX ...

Greetz,

Lamal

[Air Key West]

The latter two birds seem to have been built respectively in 2008 and 2010, if I have done my research correctly. Not bad if these young birds join the b.air fleet.
Lamal, you write that SN is now inspecting two A320s as potential SN-birds. Isn't that already late, if these planes have to be ready for April 2011 as I seem to remember to have read somewhere ? Are three to four months enough to prepare the new planes to enter the SN fleet ?

[Lamal]

Lamal, you write that SN is now inspecting two A320s as potential SN-birds. Isn't that already late, if these planes have to be ready for April 2011 as I seem to remember to have read somewhere ? Are three to four months enough to prepare the new planes to enter the SN fleet ?

Wel, first inspection took place 1,5-2 months ago, and they are in perfect condition. So my guess is things can go quick. See what happend with OO-SSD, joined the fleet in august 2010, first inspection around januari - februari 2010 (correct me if I'm wrong).

Note that Brussels Airlines in planning to phase-in 2 A320 and 4 A319 as from April 2011. These will all be (relatively) yound birds, so phasing-in can go very fast.

Greetz,

Lamal

[Air Key West]

Thanks ! Do you happen to know if these planes will keep their current seats ? Will just the livery change ?
Any other changes ?

[dsa330]

the first ones will come begin next year, not april
and indeed 2 nearly new mexicana's. (but they still need a small c-check tho)

[Polaris]

the first ones will come begin next year, not april
and indeed 2 nearly new mexicana's. (but they still need a small c-check tho)

This is good news! Any idea when they will enter into service?

Edit: Typo

[diminbru]

According to Planespotters, the next two A319's will come from Easyjet.
G-EZEI and G-EZEM
Both planes are 7 years old and both are an 319-111. Can anyone tell me what the difference is with an 319-112? The -112 is the type of A319 that SN has at this moment (except for the OO-SSP).

[airtrotter]

interesting!
I have the same question actually

[RoMax]

SSP is an -113 and the rest is all -112 indeed.
But I don't know exactly what it stands for. Often it has something to do with the (version of the) engines, but I don't know if that's also the case with the A319 (or in general the A320 series).
With Boeing aircraft the last two numbers are just a customer code wich is the same for every aircraft (doesn't matter wich type) that is delivered to the same airline.

[Bralo20]

For all A32S/33x/34x/38x series:

-x0x series are equipped with GE engines
-x1x series are equipped with CFM engines
-x2x series are equipped with P&W engines
-x3x series are equipped with IAE engines
-x4x series are equipped with RR engines
-x6x series are equipped with EA engines

For the A319:

A319-111 = With CFM56-5B5 or 5B5/P engines
A319-112 = With CFM56-5B6 or 5B6/P or 5B6/2P engines
A319-113 = With CFM56-5A4 or 5A4/F engines

[diminbru]

For all A32S/33x/34x/38x series:

-x0x series are equipped with GE engines
-x1x series are equipped with CFM engines
-x2x series are equipped with P&W engines
-x3x series are equipped with IAE engines
-x4x series are equipped with RR engines
-x6x series are equipped with EA engines

For the A319:

A319-111 = With CFM56-5B5 or 5B5/P engines
A319-112 = With CFM56-5B6 or 5B6/P or 5B6/2P engines
A319-113 = With CFM56-5A4 or 5A4/F engines

thanks for the info! So I guess that SN only flies with CFM engines then...

[AF036]

According to Planespotters.com

must be http://www.planespotters.net

[airtrotter]

the 5B5 variant seems to have 2 kN less max. thrust and a slightly higher bypass ratio. So I guess this won't give too many commonality problems (as opposed to OO-SSP which has CFM engines from a different series, CFM56-5A)

[tolipanebas]

About commonality: U2 A319s have 4 overwing exits iso the regular 2 to cope with the higher seating numbers of a LCC.

[diminbru]

what are the possible registrations for these aircraft? OO-SSS and OO-SST?

[AF036]

OO-SST is being used already by a Rockwell Commander 114
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5926044

OO-SSS, SSU, SSV, SSW, SSX, SSY, SSZ are free and were never been used.