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first of all I like liege airport as well before you start shooting me!
but the cargo figures are not realistic because liege airport also counts the transit cargo on the fuel stoppers as handled cargo and that is not correct.
they have to count only the kgs what are handled by the workers of liege airport.

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they do have an impressive 10 year developement plan though. Hope that high speed trainstation for freight will be a success.

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avia messenger wrote:first of all I like liege airport as well before you start shooting me!
but the cargo figures are not realistic because liege airport also counts the transit cargo on the fuel stoppers as handled cargo and that is not correct.
they have to count only the kgs what are handled by the workers of liege airport.

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Hi Messenger!
Your first post on this thread! Welcome aficionado
Numbers reported by Liege-Airport are computed according to definitions of ACI World (Airports Council International). As far as I know, ACI rules are standard. Of course, you may have your own way.
Now, you like it or not... ;)
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Personnaly, I don't care about the tonnage, the only thing that I'm looking after is the trend, going up or going down, now if LGG use their figures to promote the airport abroad and attract more customer,fair enough...

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I guess beeing in the world top 30 is very good for the image.
If you 31st or 32nd, it's a big difference ;)
We'll see at the end of the year, automn brings usually good numbers.

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Desert Rat wrote:Personnaly, I don't care about the tonnage, the only thing that I'm looking after is the trend, going up or going down, now if LGG use their figures to promote the airport abroad and attract more customer,fair enough...
In this case, trend is very positif. Y-T-D @ end of Sep is (only) 30% up compare to 2009, same period.
Other good news: Building permit has been granted, earlier this month for an additional cargo hall (North side) and a 6,000 m² office building.
Megaman wrote:I personnally think that the passenger terminal at liege is money out of the window and should have been used at charleroi which is less than a 1 hour drive. Of course that was probably before crl became a success. They should put all the focus on cargo ops.
That 's not a money issue ! Ryanair have been growing at a faster rate than CLR project developed.
SOWAER are now investing big money in parking lot, new control tower, a fuel farm, taxiway and studying RWY extension.
One thing is scaring : Ryanair are far too potent in Charleroi. What would happend if crazy MOL decided (overnight) to close CLR base (see Marseille) ? Of course, this is not what we want to see. But aviation business is always risky.




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an-148 wrote:B777 in the fleet of TNT:
http://www.group.tnt.com/press/526207/T ... _2011.aspx
Thus no expansion with these B777 and just replacing short term leases with its own aircraft?

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to me, it's expantion. All new destinations in Asia.

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Acid-drop wrote:to me, it's expantion. All new destinations in Asia.
yes, expantion: http://topconstruct.rnews.be/fr/belga/1 ... liege.aspx


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does anybody know what this represents in terms of capacities/job creation?

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Megaman wrote:does anybody know what this represents in terms of capacities/job creation?
[edited] Since august 2010, 125 jobs (i have been already created. The 3 new 777 should add 70 to 80 pilots.
TNT has 2171 employees in LGG from some source, 1350 from other sources ...
Capacity : no clear idea since it's not clear what they will do with their 4 747. They seems to use 3 or the 4 for now, + 1 atlas.
Anyway, this is for the end of next year.

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"TNT's current long-haul fleet comprises two owned Boeing 747-400ERFs plus two more on short-term lease from Aircastle Investment (currently sub-leased out, to Emirates Skycargo). Extra 747-400ERF capacity is also currently wet-leased from Atlas Air."

meaning they use the 4 747, +1 atlas, +3 777, that's quite a nice fleet

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TNT Airways.
Once more: new China link . LGG-Chongqing-LGG with B744-ER. (Starting with 3/week)
See LLOYD (sorry in French):
http://www.lelloyd.be/nieuws/id30093-TN ... gqing.html
JOC in English:
http://www.joc.com/air-expedited/tnt-ex ... pe-service

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http://pub1.chinadaily.com.cn/cdpdf/us/ ... ml?c=32787
http://www.cdeclips.com/en/business/ful ... l?id=54043

TNT is hot on China.
It's growing very very fast, one year before having the 777 is a long time to wait

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TNT is indeed maybe hot in China but this is not new. All those new destinations are not falling out of the sky so suddenly.

Since a year of 6, TNT Express is working very hard on the Chinese marked. They only had some depots over there but furthermore nothing. TNT Express was on a "take-over" path and succeed. They took over multiple of their local competitors. With air traffic you are nothing when your road traffic is zero. With all the take-overs they had China an their hand because every big land hub was reachable.

When that phase was over the first China flights of TNT Airways started with their first B747-400. They increased with more and new flights and destinations.

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