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by Robin_Bamps » 19 Jan 2004, 17:08
I had a bad feeling already, but I heard the news on the radio this afternoon when I was at Abelag. Was a very emotional moment, knowing that this is the seventh bankcrupt Belgian airline in 5 years:
1999: Constellation International Airlines
2000: Air Belgium
2001: Brussels International Airlines
2001: CityBird
2001: Sabena
2002: Delsey / VG Airlines
2004: Sobelair
Sad regards, Robin Bamps.
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by vliegtuigfreak » 19 Jan 2004, 17:13
What will happen with the 767's?
Greetingzz
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by Sabena_690 » 19 Jan 2004, 17:36
Skystef: 4 planes? I thought only the ones they owned (= 3 planes).
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by ATC » 19 Jan 2004, 18:08
very, very sad day for belgian aviation...
I hope the SLR people will find new work and I give my respect for them.
with respect,
ATC
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by B737229 » 19 Jan 2004, 18:27
very sad for SLR, and for all their employes, who have been fighting to keep this company in the air!
another sad day in belgian airline history!
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by FlyingDaniel » 19 Jan 2004, 18:51
zillox wrote: I just heared on radio that sobelair has declared bankcrupt!
what a pitty
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by Apuneger » 19 Jan 2004, 19:06
Another sad day for Belgium airline history indeed. Thanks to all the employees for their dedication and passion for aviation and a great service!
Ivan
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by liebensd » 19 Jan 2004, 19:38
Sobelair do still have its Flight-license, that is what the curators told.
Sabena Technics told that it has a contract with Tui, for the maintenance of its 2 aircrafts.
Greetz,
Dave
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by Airborne » 19 Jan 2004, 20:14
A black day for Belgian Aviation.
I had a lot of good experiences with this airline.
I hope the Sobelair staff will find new work soon.
I'll miss you, Sobelair
Kristof
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by OO-VEX » 19 Jan 2004, 20:58
Sabena_690 wrote: Skystef: 4 planes? I thought only the ones they owned (= 3 planes).
Frederic
As far as i know, TUI is not interested in the planes owned by SLR. They only consider those who are leased by Sobelair.
OO-VEX
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by gliding-glider » 19 Jan 2004, 21:39
luchtzak wrote:
Anyway I would like to give my support to all flying staff and hopefully they can restart very soon in another company...
greetings,
Bart
Bart,
I think you mean your support is going to all SLR staff ...... not only the flying staff
Greetz
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by aerobel » 19 Jan 2004, 21:50
I made a special on Sobelair today... the latest news, history & pictures. The report kan be found @
www.aerobel.be (only in dutch)
Tom Brinckman
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by Skystef » 19 Jan 2004, 22:08
Sabena_690 wrote: Skystef: 4 planes? I thought only the ones they owned (= 3 planes).
Sometimes you have to read in between the lines Frederic
, as i mentionned in my posting "lease contract", so the likely candidates should be OO-SBX, RMV, SLW, VAC and even the "VAS". I guess the 767s will be returned to the lessors.
SS
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by sn26567 » 20 Jan 2004, 00:00
I am travelling and I just learned the news. What a shame! My best memory with Sobelair: Brussels-Oaxaca-Cancun-Brussels in 1999 with the 767 in business class. A marvelous trip!
Another souvenir: the DC6s to the Congo, when Sobelair, a fiercely independent company, operated charters in competition with Sabena's scheduled flights. Sabena had a blue cheatline, Sobelair a green one.
André
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by Avro » 25 Jan 2004, 10:40
I'm just back from holidays and now I see this
RIP Sobelair
I wish all the staff of SLR to find a new job asap.
What a sad moment for Belbian aviation
BTW: What about Birdy's interest in taking over 2 767's
Chris
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by sn26567 » 26 Jan 2004, 09:21
Avro wrote: BTW: What about Birdy's interest in taking over 2 767's
Birdy is not interested anymore. After JetAir and Thomas Cook decided to walk away from Sobelair, there is nothing to take over anymore.
André
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by Skymaster » 26 Jan 2004, 13:39
It's not only a sad day but a sad
couple of years already, in the Belgian airline business! Management incompetence and political misjudgement are the key factors which are the cause.
My personal opinion is that all the post Sabena set-ups are very artificial or arrangements à la Belge, difficult to survive the long term.
I am very sorry for all that dedicated and professional staff working in such an uncertain environment....
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by winglets » 26 Jan 2004, 14:10
According to "De morgen" all sobelair pilots obtained a job offer from 3-4 foreign companies.
Somebody knows wich companies?
Groetjes,
Winglets
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by A318 » 26 Jan 2004, 16:17
Let me guess, Easyjet, Ryanair and Virgin-Express?
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by Sabena_690 » 26 Jan 2004, 16:33
VEX is reducing their fleet so this is out of the question.
I am not too sure if they will really get a new job so fast, wait and see...
Frederic
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