Belgocontrol is Close to Bankruptcy?

[FEASTTESTER]

Hellow,

That is not good, i would like to start at Belgo Control.

What will happen if Belgo Control is out of money?

What are they doing to protect Belgo Control of going Bankrupt?

What are the Employees of Belgo Control saying or doing about it?

Greetings

K.

[FEASTTESTER]

wow

what happens there?
I want to work there as an airtrrafficontroller
What happens if they go bankrupt?
What is the solution?
What are the employees saing/doing?

Greetings

K.

[bravomike]

sorry only in dutch and french, what is happening?
http://www.dhnet.be/infos/economie/arti ... uelle.html
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/996/Econom ... liet.dhtml

Greetings
M.

[jan_olieslagers]

Een audit bracht ernstige administratieve fouten aan het licht.

Why am I not surprised?

[sn26567]

sorry only in dutch and french, what is happening?
http://www.dhnet.be/infos/economie/arti ... uelle.html
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/996/Econom ... liet.dhtml

Greetings
M.

If it is only in French and/or Dutch, it would be nice to give a short summary in English. In short, the articles say that Belgocontrol loses a lot of money by providing services free of charge to the regional airports of Ostend, Antwerp, Liège and Charleroi. Salaries could only be paid by borrowing 20 miliion euros (which in my view is not a sound way of doing business!).

[cnc]

belgocontrol is owned by the state right? whats the big problem then?
i don't know a lot of state owned companies that actualy make money rather then costing money

[Conti764]

Is there any reason why Belgocontrol can't ask money for their services to regional airports?

[sn26567]

Apparently there is an agreement between the federal government and the regional executives that puts the onus on the federal government.

[Propwash]

"Houston, we have a serious problem"

What will happen if Belgo Control is out of money?

Another loan, Federal tax rise :thumbdown: or by selling (sale and lease back) Royal Yachts/properties

I want to work there as an airtrrafficontroller

Despite the bad 'staff' management attitude (Stasi culture) at Belgocontrol, to be a ATCO is one of the most challenging (better than 'Air'bus 'screw'driver) jobs in Aviation Industry.

I would say, keep on going and start the procedures

what happens there?

Fist Class 'financial' mismanagement (Chinese bookkeeping), ATCO exploitation (slavery) and Keeping up Appearances (Window Dressing).

What happens if they go bankrupt?

Belgocontrol is an autonomous Federal Government Organisation and can't go bankrupt.

Note: the taxpayer will 'finally' fit the bill (cover the losses).

What is the solution?

Dismiss the (Political selected/colored) responsable Belgococontrol 'staff' management, without go to hell bonus and/or redundancy pay.

What are the employees saing/doing?

Due to embargo and/or staff management Stasi culture, unfortunately nothing.

belgocontrol is owned by the state right? whats the big problem then?

Because it will cost the 'entire' taxpaying community money again !!

[EBBU]

What are the employees doing?

Remember the actions : like working for free for two hours, trying to get the truth out during the official presentation of the new CANAC2 centre....(all the while trying to be heard without damaging the aviation industry). Unfortunatly, the result was not impressive.
The results of the audit appear to be confirming what the working people from belgocontrol have been saying for years.

The lack of respect towards the employees has been evident for some time now.
e.g.: At the official opening of the new control tower and CANAC2 centre the employees were asked to use the back entrance when they came to work. So as not to disturb the festivities.

[Propwash]

The lack of respect towards the employees has been evident for some time now.

Not only the lack of 'staff' management or Political respect (I personally support the ATCO's) but also the street people and/or Self Loading Freight (nicknamed: "The Cattle"), doesn't have a clue about the 'real' outrageous / disgraceful :thumbdown: situation.

[sn26567]

Belgocontrol has reacted through a press release to the statements relating to its financial situation made in Le Vif-L'Express. This press release is available in French and Dutch only.

[Propwash]

Belgocontrol has reacted through a press release to the statements relating to its financial situation made in Le Vif-L'Express.

Typical 'Belgian' well kwown Window Dressing.

As expected, NO 'political' consequences for the Stasi cultured and Chinese bookkeeping management staff!

Anyways, the taxp(r)ayers and ATCO's are going to pay .... :thumbdown:

.be business as usual :shh:

BTW if the ATCO's decide to go on strike (to get rid of this management), they will have my support/understanding.

[FEASTTESTER]

Hi,

Are they going on strike?

I mean, do they awaiting their faith or are they taking action to keep Belgo Control Alive!

If they have any impact on such a political problem (after reading the articles...)

By the way, why do they need 20 milions as a loan if they have 200 milion as their own money?

Greetings

K.

[OO-JFP]

If 84% of their revenues is generated by overflights then there is more bad news to come:
http://www.dusinfo.net/thema.php?board= ... age=last#0

or maybe good news: more space for RYR, WZZ and TAY over Belgium, it's for free anyway.
It proves once more: this country is ruled by a minority and the majority can pay the bill.

OO-JFP

[Propwash]

Are they going on strike?

Hold your horses

After 10 years of internal struggle, it's common sense (my opinion) to start 'long term' actions (close the microphones) to get rid of this political chosen and supported 'Chicken Wings' management.

I mean, do they awaiting their faith or are they taking action to keep Belgo Control Alive!

Under the current 'Chicken Wings' management and 10 years of internal ATCO struggle, it's a Lose-Lose situation anyway.

If they have any impact on such a political problem (after reading the articles...)

It's all about lobbying for political reasons and in .be the responsable politicians don't listen (close their eyes), unless you hit them 'directly' in the face by serious 'long term' action or strike.

By the way, why do they need 20 milions as a loan

To pay the salaries!

It proves once more: this country is ruled by a minority and the majority can pay the bill.

:clap:

Yeah, not only Belgocontrol is virtually bankrupt, but entire 'Wi(n)dow Dressed' .be is 'virtually' bankrupt!

[EBBU]

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail. ... lgocontrol

Summary : Over the next months, the employees of Belgocontrol have set several deadlines.
e.g.: first deadline, March 19th. By then the results of the audit should be released.
And by June 26th, a structural solution for the financing of Belgocontrol should be agreed on.

If the deadlines are not met, some actions are possible...

[Propwash]

"Belgocontrol minst efficiënte luchtverkeersleider in EU" (HLN.be)

BTW excellent slogan 'No Sabena BIS - No time to CELEBRATE"

[Propwash]

Instead of dismissing the entire 'Chicken Wings' management staff, the Federal Government is buying time (delay in execution :shh:).

See HLN article Belgocontrol staakt niet

If the Belgocontrol ATCO's gonna strike(?), it will be after July 1th (High Season)!

PLS don't blame the ATCO's

[sn26567]

La Libre Belgique todahy publishes the results of an audit of Belgocontrol made by auditors KPMG at the request from State Secretary Schouppe. Bad weather for the current management!