new A319 for SN

[Bralo20]

very nice! it's looking good
but why the French registration?

The registration can still change, even though it's painted on.

The registered owner of "F-OHJX" is currently "WILMINGTON TRUST SP SERVICES (DUBLIN) LIMITED"
However the current renter of the plane is "NATIONAL PRIVATE AIR TRANSPORT SERVICES COMPANY LIMITED" in Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) and this is still the holder of the registration.

I supose that this bird will get an OO- registration as soon as it's delivered.

[Bralo20]

I do hope that the A333 will also be painted in Star Colors, that would be awsome

[TUB023]

registration will be: OO-SSC

[tolipanebas]

So it's going to be OO-SSC after all then? Guess the OO-SSE is reserved for the second plane?

Pitty they've painted the STAR logo on the tail (although that was expected)

Personally I am more in favour of the way Singapore Airlines does it: they have a STAR ALLIANCE fuselage, but they keep their own logo on the tail. It helps identify your company and Brussels Airlines could definitely do with some more brand awareness throughout Europe, so I'd have hoped they would do it like SQ and go for a hybrid scheme, rather than hide completely behind the STAR ALLIANCE name and logo...

Oh well, let's hang those CFMs under the wings, and fly her to BRU...

[RoMax]

So it's going to be OO-SSC after all then? Guess the OO-SSE is reserved for the second plane?

Pitty they've painted the STAR logo on the tail (although that was expected)

Personally I am more in favour of the way Singapore Airlines does it: they have a STAR ALLIANCE fuselage, but they keep their own logo on the tail. It helps identify your company and Brussels Airlines could definitely do with some more brand awareness, so I'd have hoped they would do it like SQ.

The way like SQ do it was donne earlier by another company. But I don't remember me wich. When Star decided that every member needs to have a logo jet, SQ and the other airline were the only two that refused to paint a whole plane. The other airline has changed their minds verry fast, but SQ has still no intention to paint the tail in the star logo.
But actually I like this colors more than the way SQ do it. But that's personal I think.

[tolipanebas]

I take it when you're as mighty as SQ, you can pretty much show the middle finger to whatever rule STAR ALLIANCE may come up with.

Wonder if SN has considered the Singapore way a as an option too, or simply stuck to the textbook, because SQ actually has a good point in that it makes sense to retain your logo on the tail and thus show off your own corporate identity, next to the STAR ALLIANCE brand on the fuselage, rather than be almost completely invisible like normally is the case for STAR ALLIANCE airlines! It's also how Oneworld does it, BTW...

Especially for the A330, if that one is going to be painted in STAR ALLIANCE colours, it would made sense to keep the SN logo on the tail, given this plane is going to be depoyed solely on Central-African destinations, where SN has quite a reputation and STAR ALLIANCE is basically unknown...

However, since it's not done that way on the A319, I suppose it won't be done like that on the A333 either?

[sn26567]

Qualiflyer (the former alliance of SN, led by SR) had only a blue belly to characterise the aircraft of its members. But all planes had to use it.

In the Star Alliance, only a few planes have to be painted in the alliance's scheme.

An intermediate solution would be nice: all planes decorated with some visible recognition sign of the alliance. But it is probably too late to implement such a proposal.

[diminbru]

pic of F-OHJY in Shannon :

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_P ... ?id=115283

Anyone knows which A/C it's going to replace?
If I got it right, OO-VEJ already left the fleet
with OO-VBR and OO-LTM (to Korongo) to follow???

[cnc]

is there a specific reason why they use the SS in the reg? OO-SSE, OO-SSC etc

[HighInTheSky]

is there a specific reason why they use the SS in the reg?

This is thanks to the German takeover by Lufthansa

Just kidding ofcourse...

These were the registrations from Sabena. I guess that the OO-SS(x) was the first series of registrations that was free when the A319's entered into service.

Now, a question that i have is, is SN obligated to take the old Sabena registrations for the same airframe? So ex OO-SSC becomes once again OO-SSC?

Perhaps stupid question, but somebody here will know the answer for sure

[Conti764]

So it's going to be OO-SSC after all then? Guess the OO-SSE is reserved for the second plane?

Pitty they've painted the STAR logo on the tail (although that was expected)

Personally I am more in favour of the way Singapore Airlines does it: they have a STAR ALLIANCE fuselage, but they keep their own logo on the tail. It helps identify your company and Brussels Airlines could definitely do with some more brand awareness throughout Europe, so I'd have hoped they would do it like SQ and go for a hybrid scheme, rather than hide completely behind the STAR ALLIANCE name and logo...

Oh well, let's hang those CFMs under the wings, and fly her to BRU...

With all due respect to SN, but I don't think they can afford to be as 'stuborn' as SQ... All other companies have the full Star Alliance c/s and only SQ seems to be the odd one out, so I doubt SN has the leverage to paint their own logo on the tail the way SQ does...

[Conti764]

Especially for the A330, if that one is going to be painted in STAR ALLIANCE colours, it would made sense to keep the SN logo on the tail, given this plane is going to be depoyed solely on Central-African destinations, where SN has quite a reputation and STAR ALLIANCE is basically unknown...

Isn't this actually a reason to paint it in Star Alliance colors? To gain reputation in Africa whereas SN is already an established airline in Africa? The local passengers know they are flying Brussels Airlines and will encounter the same service when they board every SN plane.

So it actually might be a good idea to rotate the new A333 (if it will receive the *A-colors) trough the entire African network to gain reputation.

Another difference might be that in most markets you'd enter a plane via the bridge, thus not even seeing the 'small' logo at the front part of the plane, whereas in Africa you mostly enter via stairs, thus looking up to the Brussels Airlines logo, so the pax still recognize it as a Brussels Airlines bird.

[Conti764]

pic of F-OHJY in Shannon :

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_P ... ?id=115283

Anyone knows which A/C it's going to replace?
If I got it right, OO-VEJ already left the fleet
with OO-VBR and OO-LTM (to Korongo) to follow???

Is it even anounced this will become the second 'new' A319 this year?

Anyway, with that color, it almost looks like a cardboard plane

[claude]

More informations about star livery

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/bl ... fault.aspx


Best regards

claude

[sn26567]

Now, a question that i have is, is SN obligated to take the old Sabena registrations for the same airframe? So ex OO-SSC becomes once again OO-SSC?

It is a tradition (not sure it is an obligation) that, when an aircraft gets a Belgian registration, it will recover that same registration when returning to Belgium after registration in another country, no matter for which airline it flies.

[jan_olieslagers]

Confirmed, Andre: this is internal regulation of our CAA (Bestuur der Luchtvaart). They don't have to, they just do. ISTR there have been exceptions, though.

[HighInTheSky]

Now, a question that i have is, is SN obligated to take the old Sabena registrations for the same airframe? So ex OO-SSC becomes once again OO-SSC?

It is a tradition (not sure it is an obligation) that, when an aircraft gets a Belgian registration, it will recover that same registration when returning to Belgium after registration in another country, no matter for which airline it flies.

Thanks!

[NimbusFlyer]

When an aircraft is de-registered in Belgium, the Belgian CAA will keep the registration reserved for 10 years. After that, it may be assigned to another aircraft.

This means: If it is re-registered within the 10 year period, it will automatically receive the same registration. After the 10 year period, it will be reassigned to the same aircraft when it is re-registered in Belgium if the registration is not taken by another aircraft.

[jan_olieslagers]

Thanks for pointing this out!

[pjvdv]

Hi,

If I'm right OO-VBR left the fleet at 22 february...
But waiting for someone to confirm

Pieter-Jan