BRU winter 09-10: latest news, routes, airlines

[HighInTheSky]

Now also officially confirmed. SN will join STAR on the 9th of December.

thanks for that - would you have a link of any sort to the official news ?

For now only internal communication. Press release will follow soon I guess...

[sn26567]

In return, LH will codeshare on:
Brussels - Dakar - Banjul - Dakar - Brussels LH5430/1
Brussels - Monrovia - Abidjan - Brussels LH5436/7
Brussels - Abidjan - Monrovia - Brussels LH5438/9
Brussels - Douala LH5440
Douala - Brussels LH5441
Brussels - Yaounde LH5442
Yaounde - Brussels LH5443
Brussels - Bujumbura - Nairobi - Brussels LH5446/7
Brussels - Kigali - Nairobi - Brussels LH5448/9
Brussels - Entebbe - Nairobi - Brussels LH5452/3

Does this roundup mean Douala and Yaounde will be flown to directly i.s.o. the usual triangular flights?

No. It rather seems to me that LH does not want to codeshare to Kinshasa. Why?

[kiwiandrew]

No. It rather seems to me that LH does not want to codeshare to Kinshasa. Why?

or perhaps the bilateral agreement between Germany and the DRC (assuming that there is a bilateral agreement ) does not permit third party codeshares , in which case it is not so much that they dont want to , but rather that they cannot ?

[AFApresident]

And finally a daily flight to Dakar instead of the 6 weekly

[HighInTheSky]

And finally a daily flight to Dakar instead of the 6 weekly

Indeed, the only thing I don't understand is how the hell we are going to preform those extra flights to AFI with only 4 A/C...

[tolipanebas]

That's right, SN will add another Dakar-Banjul rotation to its network as from next winter, but isn't there also some route (or routes) which will see frequency cutbacks simultaneously?

On the more positive note, during a meeting with the unions, management has confirmed it has sent a fully completed file to the ExCom concerning the introduction of a 5th A330 on our network, so it's really in their hands now. Let's see if they put their money where their mouth is...

They certainly do have the money (€25M from LH), so what's going to be the excuse this time???

[sdbelgium]

Lufthansa Italia has cancelled its 3 Daily Milan Malpensa - Brussels service. The service was supposed to be resumed from 01SEP09 after few weeks of suspension due to low traffic season. But this will not take place.

It is continuing to offer this route through codesharing with brussels airlines, which operates 5 Daily flights.

(partly of http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... ssels.html)

[SabenaForever]

We have another destination from Danube Wings, Proprad-Tatry (Slovakia) begins 27 October
It look's that there is a market...

www.danubewings.com

[sdbelgium]

Danubewings schedules as follows:

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V5 3775  BTS 0520  BRU 0755  AT7  x567
V5 3776  BRU 1830  BTS 2100  AT7  x567

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V5 3660  TAT 1225  BRU 1515  AT7  4
V5 3661  BRU 0855  TAT 1145  AT7  4

Remarks

• BRU-BTS not between 18DEC and 03JAN
• BRU-TAT not between 18DEC and 06JAN

[Atlantis]

Danubewings schedules as follows:

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V5 3775  BTS 0520  BRU 0755  AT7  x567
V5 3776  BRU 1830  BTS 2100  AT7  x567

I saw on the Danube Wings site that the flight days are Mon/Tue/wed and Thr.
The arrival and departing hours are correct.

[tangolima]

Hello,
Nice new visitor !!!!

Greetings,
Kristof

[FLYAIR10]

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V5 3775 BTS 0520 BRU 0755 AT7 x567
V5 3776 BRU 1830 BTS 2100 AT7 x567

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V5 3660 TAT 1225 BRU 1515 AT7 4
V5 3661 BRU 0855 TAT 1145 A

arrival BRU at 07.55 and dep for BTS at 18.30 hr...? is this plane to stay idle for the whole day in BRU? (except on thurdays) Or will they make it available for charters? (or SN-feeder? ) Also dep in BTS at 5.20 is quite early for an intra-European flight...

Grtz..

[sdbelgium]

I saw on the Danube Wings site that the flight days are Mon/Tue/wed and Thr.
The arrival and departing hours are correct.

Indeed, I said x567 because that means "except days 567". So this is the same as saying Mon-Thu.

[Bralo20]

SN Codeshare flights with BMI on the BRU-LHR route:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

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BRU  Brussels Metro / Brussels Ntl BE = BRU CRL [EBBR]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
THU  29 Oct 2009 - 05 Nov 2009

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
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SN/##      5281    BRU   07:20     LHR   07:40     ER4  0   123456-     01:20       M       1   26 Oct   23 Dec
SN/##      5283    BRU   09:40     LHR   10:00     ER4  0   12345--     01:20       M       1   26 Oct   24 Dec
SN/##      5287    BRU   11:45     LHR   12:05     ER4  0   1234567     01:20       M       1   25 Oct   24 Dec
SN/##      5291    BRU   15:40     LHR   15:50     ER4  0   12345--     01:10       M       1   26 Oct   24 Dec
SN/##      5291    BRU   15:50     LHR   16:00     ER4  0   -----67     01:10       M       1   25 Oct   27 Mar
SN/##      5293    BRU   17:40     LHR   17:50     ER4  0   12345--     01:10       M       1   26 Oct   24 Dec
SN/##      5295    BRU   19:35     LHR   19:50     ER4  0   12345-7     01:15       M       1   26 Oct   24 Dec
SN/##      5297    BRU   21:20     LHR   21:35     ER4  0   12345--     01:15       M       1   26 Oct   24 Dec

I liked BA better then BD... The ERJ145 is a very tiny plane compared to the A320 from BA...

[BrightCedars]

I second that remark on BD with the ERJ not being the best airplane available on the route.

Compared to before is BD reducing/adding frequency/capacity overall with the SN codeshare?

Where are the days or BA's B757, B767 and Sabena widebodies between BRU and LHR!

Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure BA gets a lot of connecting traffic, and BD for sure offers much less on its end and most of it backtracking to the Continent. As far as city to city is concerned, what beats the Eurostar?

[sdbelgium]

Compared to before is BD reducing/adding frequency/capacity overall with the SN codeshare?

No codeshare yet, but today BMI upgraded BD151 to an A321.

[LX-LGX]

No codeshare yet, but today BMI upgraded BD151 to an A321

Main reason is probably BD152 BRU-LHR - ETD 17h30: flight with many Arsenal supporters who return home after attending Wednesday evening's Champions League soccer match in Liège.

[airbuske]

Changes regarding the flights from BRU to MUC, HAM , TXL and FRA.

SN will discontinue the flights to MUC and will keep the morning flight to FRA.
The flight in the afternoon will be discontinued.

HAM: 4 times a day by SN
TXL: 7 times a day by SN
FRA: 1 flight by SN on, 8 by LH
MUC: 8 flights by LH

[tolipanebas]

Changes regarding the flights from BRU to MUC, HAM , TXL and FRA.

SN will discontinue the flights to MUC and will keep the morning flight to FRA.
The flight in the afternoon will be discontinued.

HAM: 4 times a day by SN
TXL: 7 times a day by SN
FRA: 1 flight by SN on, 8 by LH
MUC: 8 flights by LH

Makes sense to share the work.

So SN has received TXL and HAM, whereas LH takes MUC?

Weird to see SN operate a single flight to FRA, although it does operate on a very early slot.
Maybe they are seeing it as a slot-keeping flight or something?
Or is LH going to cancel their nightstop in BRU for the FRA plane?

[cathay belgium]

Hi airbuske,

Where did you get your info of the LH shedules for this winter?
Already checked both booking sites LH & SN and didn't noticed any changes of
aircraft or carriers !

Shouldn't they announce this change to their customers or change booking sites?
Noticed that the flights concerning TXL LH & SN togheter have 9 flights a day!
(where 6 by SN and 3 by eurowings LH )

Strange.

CX-B