Hewa Bora at BRU

[Conti764]

LEOPOLD II has a point. However he should not worry and let the market choose. 90% of the travelers between Kinshasa and Brussels are Congolese like me. We are tired of stops, lausy food, screeming flemish crew, and all this at the price of a monopolist abusing his market dominance. Thank you Hewa Bora for coming back :clap: :clap: :clap: Good luck we congolese are with you.

Keep that in mind the next time the flight gets cancelled without a notice on forehand. Keep that in mind the next time your flight gets delayed and delayed and delayed. Oh, and while we're at it, try to keep our terminal in one piece when the above occures.

My point: Hewa Bora was and probably will be trouble for pax, staff and authorities. I have seen enough bullshit with this company to not trust them at all.

[Conti764]

It is all about respect.
I suppose you are white, we are not, so you do not know what it is about.

Oh boy, here we go again, the racist and intollerand white former colonists

But for Air France we have to go to paris, Hewa Bora is DIRECT , NONSTOP!!!!!!

Cheerio! For now it's al joy and fun, but let's talk again the day Hewa Bora get's back to it's old, highly unpleasant habits.

And about the 'screaming flemish'crew', you people try to stick to the rules next time (max. luggage is max. luggage), be polite to the crew yourself and don't start world war 3 when something goes wrong and you will see that 'the flemish' are not so bad after all.

[airazurxtror]

Let me tell you something. The Belgian are real crooks , because they want to remain alone for their monopoly. From their King to the Prime minister, all b..., and their target is only how to crook the Congolese.

If "Leopold II" (!) is the kind of Congoleses Hewa Bora will flood Belgium with, they had better stay in Africa.

[JM]

Hey guys,

How about someone posts a picture of the RAK airways aircraft here in EBBR ? This discussion is going nowhere ! Customers will decide in the end which is the best airline. Time will tell.

Greetz,
JM

[sdbelgium]

Hey guys,

How about someone posts a picture of the RAK airways aircraft here in EBBR ? This discussion is going nowhere ! Customers will decide in the end which is the best airline. Time will tell.

Greetz,
JM

Courtesy of Luchtzak user Black Labrador (http://www.flickr.com/photos/black_labr ... 7/sizes/l/)

[FLYAIR10]

Nice plane, but question remains; can this 757 fly non-stop from Kinshasa to Brussels with a full load and respecting at the same time all obligatory (and desired) flight safety margins? I wouldn't think so.
Technical fuel-stop could be required, or flights with a smaller load..
In that case, how long can this operation be economically justified? Unless this is only a stop-gap plane and another more performant one (767?) will come later...

grtz..

[cnc]

some press reports (like the hln article) is talking about a 757-200ER.
I didn't know there was an official ER version of the 200 or is it because it will be equiped with winglets ?

[TCAS_climb]

Although there are good reasons to celebrate in DRC, the cooperation with RAK AW is also a acknowledgement of failure. Failure of DRC to reach the minimum standards of flight safety by themselves, failure of DRC to get the exemptions they used to get in the past.

Stavros is probably very happy of his own errors of judgement. Where are the dark forces willing to keep his planes far away from Europe and acting secretely in the hallways of the EU parliament and EASA ? Where are the unfounded decisions banning him from landing here ? Man, he just made an on-time turn-around !


While there's still a looooooooooooooooooooooooong road before Stavros lands one of his own airplanes in Europe (good luck with the Safety Management System requirements from ICAO, guys !), I'm actually curious to see if this three-leg duck is going to be profitable. Profit margins must be ridiculous.

Thanks for temporarily putting an end to the monopoly and thanks for the colourful show, but if you're not at least ICAO-compliant I'm not going !

[Boeing767copilot]

source: Airline route updates:

Hewa Bora phase out 767; changes to Johannesburg
As per GDS timetable display on 09JUN09, it appears that Hewa Bora Airways has phased out Boeing 767-200 aircraft.

Also, since 03JUN09, it has made some changes to its service to Johannesburg .

*2 weekly Kinshasa (FIH) - Lubumbashi (FBM) - Johannesburg Boeing 767 service is being replaced by Boeing 727-200. Inbound service will terminate in Lubumbashi
*NEW 2 weekly Kinshasa - Johannesburg service operating with Boeing 757
*Previously used EO0xx flight number range has been switched to EO2xx

EO241 FIH0830 - 1300JNB 757 1
EO243 FIH0830 - 1145FBM1230 - 1500JNB 722 3
EO245 FIH0830 - 1300JNB 757 5
EO246 FIH0830 - 1145FBM1230 - 1500JNB 722 6

EO242 JNB1500 - 1730FIH 757 2
EO244 JNB1630 - 1900FBM 722 3
EO255 JNB1500 - 1730FIH 757 5
EO247 JNB1630 - 1900FBM 722 6

[LX-LGX]

On 1st July 2009, Belgium's State Gazette has published the founding of Hewa Bora Airways (Belgium):

http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pd ... 092719.pdf

funded with 20 mio USD

[Ozzie1969]

Let me tell you something. The Belgian are real crooks , because they want to remain alone for their monopoly. From their King to the Prime minister, all b..., and their target is only how to crook the Congolese. I don't care if Stavros is doing money or not, this is not our problem. The main question is first of all to provide jobs to congolese people also : they have rights also. I am sure that Stavros will be able to receive all 5 trafics rights from his government. Stavros is congolese like me !
Congratulation Hewa Bora !

Maybe it's better for you if you go back to Congo and stay there. Everything's perfect over there.

P.S. Leave your Belgian passport behind at customs, otherwise the customs people in Kinshasa might mistake you for a crook, instead of the gift to mankind that you really are.

[LX-LGX]

Today's incoming ALX103 from Kinshasa, ETA 19h00, is mentionned with a stop in Tunis.

Is HBA always refueling there ?

Source:
http://www.brusselsairport.be/en/flightinfo/arrivals

edit : plane landed at 21h06

[LX-LGX]

The outgoing ALX104 was expected te leave BRU at 13h15, but that flight is now delayed till 17h00.

Technical, crew in overtime, ... ?

edit :

the incoming ALX104 arrived (again ?) from Paris at 17h23.

the outgoing ALX104 to Kinshasa, announced for 13h15, took off at 19h00

[b-west]

Apparently Hewa Bora is allowed to use its own metal again? I saw S9-TOP at gate B1 today at BRU...



But according to the latest EU blacklist, they're still banned from the EU airspace. Can anybody shed a light on this?

[NCB]

This is were I landed after a little navigation on the wires:

S9 regs are for Sao Tome and Principes, and the "TOP" could come from "TO"me and "P"rincipes, a jeux de mots often used by operators.
Now, the only source I found that speaks of S9-TOP is airfleets.net, and it says that it's ex-9Q-CJD, the 762ER that was stored at BRU for months. Don't know if it's accurate.

Maybe it was cleared to fly to Europe after it changed regs/owner, and got the necessary paperwork, mx, etc...?

[LX-LGX]

Indeed:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=40266&p=221376

[b-west]

Indeed:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=40266&p=221376

Typical, pretty much the only part of the forum I didn't do a search in before posting

[Leopold II]

We know how HBA is back in the skies over Europe.
They have corrupted the entire world, starting from Sarkozy during his visit to Kinshasa. On the official photo finish, we see Stavros (he has a shaved head as a legionnaire reseemble) alongside Sarkozy. He also gave diamonds to the wife of Belgian Prime Minister (16.5 carats cat1). Brussels Airlines has sent his lieutenant to persuade HBA go to Ostend or Liege. The signification of the TOP registration started from STOP FUCK, than with a "9" we have S9 TOP. In Flight ALX yesterday, Belgian customs officials have received as a gift 12 gray parrots. ( Ask Luc Vandenzot ) If you want more informations, please feel free, don't hesitate to ask me.

[Desert Rat]

We know how HBA is back in the skies over Europe.
They have corrupted the entire world, starting from Sarkozy during his visit to Kinshasa. On the official photo finish, we see Stavros (he has a shaved head as a legionnaire reseemble) alongside Sarkozy. He also gave diamonds to the wife of Belgian Prime Minister (16.5 carats cat1). Brussels Airlines has sent his lieutenant to persuade HBA go to Ostend or Liege. The signification of the TOP registration started from STOP FUCK, than with a "9" we have S9 TOP. In Flight ALX yesterday, Belgian customs officials have received as a gift 12 gray parrots. ( Ask Luc Vandenzot ) If you want more informations, please feel free, don't hesitate to ask me.

[Leopold II]

While there's still a looooooooooooooooooooooooong road before Stavros lands one of his own airplanes in Europe (good luck with the Safety Management System requirements from ICAO, guys !), I'm actually curious to see if this three-leg duck is going to be profitable. Profit margins must be ridiculous.

Thanks for temporarily putting an end to the monopoly and thanks for the colourful show, but if you're not at least ICAO-compliant I'm not going !

Apparently, it was not so looooooooooooooooooooooooooong for HBA ! Maybe you have to upgrade your f. TCAS I to TCAS II.