ANR : Belly landing for Beech 36 Bonanza

[LX-LGX]

On Saturday around 14h30, a single prop Beech 36 has made a successfull belly landing at Antwerp.

Airport has been closed from 14h30 till 16h00.

(source: HLN.be)

[Sam V]

any pictures of the accident?

[LX-LGX]

any pictures of the accident?

No : no photo's from the crash (*) yet.

Gazet van Antwerpen indeed calls it a crash: "Luchthaven van Deurne tijdlang gesloten na vliegtuigcrash. Antwerp Airport closed for a while after a plane crash.

http://www.gva.be/antwerpen/deurne/luch ... uigje.aspx

[TCAS]

Residential (ANR based) or visiting Beech 36 ?

[ANR/BRU Spotter]

It is a residential aircraft. Aircraft involved is N39AD.

[TCAS]

N39AD.

It's (N39AD ex. OO-ROD) second belly landing!

First belly landing (or partial gear down) as OO-ROD about 14 years ago.

Forgotten to lower or technical?

[TCAS]

Cause: Pilot forgot to lower the gear.

[FlyA330]

Checklists are for Dummies

[TCAS]

Checklists are for Dummies

Normally at point Delta (descent point) you'll lower the gear.

At 500'
Mixture 'Full' rich
Prop 'Full' Fine pitch
Cowl Flaps open
Double check 3 greens
Landing clearance received

Note: in the intermediate segment (before reaching point Delta) approach flaps are selected.

[luchtpak]

Normally at point Delta (descent point) you'll lower the gear.

Just out of curiosity, WHY is point Delta is the "descent point" and WHY would one want to lower the gear there?

[TCAS]

Just out of curiosity, WHY is point Delta is the "descent point" and WHY would one want to lower the gear there?

Point Delta is the point where the descent(Final segment) starts.

D = descent

Under normal curcumstances (no high speed app etc.) from the point where you start the descent (point Delta) you'll need 'some extra' drag.

Lowering the gear = drag.

Note: Beech Bonanza A36 Gear extension speed (Vlo/Vle): 154KIAS

[luchtpak]

Riiiight....

[TCAS]

Please find below a possible conversation at the TCAS residence :

No conversation needed, my multiple K flying experience (including BE36's) was 'just' enough

[luchtpak]

Riiiight....

[TCAS]

Riiiight....

If you're professionally trained and current, Bonanza's are not difficult to fly or operate.
Bonanza's are High Performance Aircraft (HPA) and needs a professional approach/high pilot standard.

In my opinion a Bonanza is an excellent and stable IFR platform.

I don't know if the pilot (sole occupant) operated on a IFR FPL but he/she was doing 'some instrument' ILS and NDB approaches (source: HLN.be)

ANR weather (source: OGIMET):
METAR EBAW 281320Z 24011KT 220V280 9999 BKN037 10/01 Q0995 TEMPO 6000 SHRA=
METAR EBAW 281350Z 22013KT 9999 SCT037 09/03 Q0996 TEMPO 27016G30KT 6000 -TSRA SCT015CB=

TAF EBAW 281100Z 2812/2821 26012KT 9999 SCT014 SCT025 TEMPO 2812/2818 27015G26KT 4500 SHRAGS SCT008 BKN017CB=

Off-topic note:
To be 'FAA N-reg' legal: since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which you acts as pilot in command, you must have satisfactory completed a flight review (FAR § 61.56)

Must have a valid 'FAA" medical certificate and Fit to Fly.

Before carrying a passenger or passengers, you must have made at least three takeoffs and three landings within the preceding 90 days (FAR § 61.57 (a))

To be 'FAA N-reg' IFR legal/current, you must have made within the preceding 6 calender months performed and logged under actual or simulated instrument conditions, either in flight in the appropriate category of aircraft for the instrument privileges sought or in a flight simulator or flight training device that is representative of the aircraft category for the instrument privileges sought (FAR § 61.57 (c)):
1. At least six instrument approaches;
2. Holding procedures; and
3. Intercepting and tracking courses through the use of navigation systems.

Remark: to be 'FAA N-reg' legal, simulated instrument conditions (aircraft) with safety pilot only.

or

Have satisfactory completed a Instrument Proficiency Check (FAR § 61.57 (d))

Comply with the FAA English language proficiency requirements (effective March 6, 2009)

General disclaimer: see FAR § 61.3 (a) (1)
----
EASA proposal to ban N-registered aircraft out of the European system/sky (AOPA U.K. article)

[luchtpak]

It would be nice to have a seperate section where people who have actually flown aircraft beyond the confines of their bedrooms could talk shop. But who am I to make such a request with only a couple of posts under my belt...

[jan_olieslagers]

It would be nice to have a seperate section where people who have actually flown aircraft beyond the confines of their bedrooms could talk shop. But who am I to make such a request with only a couple of posts under my belt...

Guess what, there exists a forum called www.piloten.be where mostly pilots hang around, and where many would-be pilots ask their first questions. Unfortunately it's been down for a week at least...

PS my flight-simulator is set up in the study, so I am not among your accused...

[luchtpak]

Don't feel targetted, my friend. There's nothing wrong with playing the Flight Sim in itself.

[LX-LGX]

Some photo's:

http://tinyurl.com/c3f73p

http://tinyurl.com/cafqw2

[jan_olieslagers]

Under normal curcumstances (no high speed app etc.) from the point where you start the descent (point Delta) you'll need 'some extra' drag. Lowering the gear = drag.
Note: Beech Bonanza A36 Gear extension speed (Vlo/Vle): 154KIAS

Allow me to elaborate: what is the relation between lowering gear and extending flaps? Indeed is there a fixed or normal sequence (gear first, then flaps first notch, or vice versa) or does it vary between planes? I know the POH* gives all these speeds, was just wondering if there's a general rule.
Perhaps some examples from various plane's POH?

*POH: pilot's and owner's handbook, a legal document describing procedures for operations and maintenance.