The best commuter aircraft

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 19 Dec 2003, 16:48

Wich one is your favourite commuter aircraft? I think the Dornier 328 especially in Welcome air colors, nice design in happy colors!

vliegtuigfreak · Post by **vliegtuigfreak** » 19 Dec 2003, 17:56

I love the Fokker 50! Even i have never bin on that plane. But i've seen them several times at EBAW and the are very beautiful!

Greetingzz
Sonny

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 19 Dec 2003, 19:10

sab319 wrote:Wich one is your favourite commuter aircraft? I think the Dornier 328 especially in Welcome air colors, nice design in happy colors!

And the Saab 340 A?
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sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 21 Dec 2003, 11:32

I forgot to put the SAAB 340 and 2000 in the list, sorry!!!!

Post by **sn26567** » 21 Dec 2003, 14:23

sab319 wrote:I forgot to put the SAAB 340 and 2000 in the list, sorry!!!!

You still can edit your first post to include them.

Snoopy · Post by **Snoopy** » 21 Dec 2003, 18:21

Good idea .....

I think that the Saab 2000 is the best commuter .... Nice cockpit , fast and comfortable for a turboprop

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 28 Dec 2003, 16:48

The Fokker props get my vote, mainly because they're the only ones in the list I've been on, but I have found them quite comfortable, easy for viewing and the VLM ones are very comfortable with leather seats and 32" pitch.

I also like the ATR types, but that's more for their photogenic qualities, same for the Dorniers. The Saab 2000 is also a favourite video subject of mine, for its awesome take off performance (superb rate of climb for a prop).

A318 · Post by **A318** » 28 Dec 2003, 18:19

Fokker, since it is dutch, reliable and efficient!

Greetz,

Erwin

Jumbolino · Post by **Jumbolino** » 29 Dec 2003, 00:16

Of, course from the choice of the poll my heart says it´s the ATR, but my brain says it´s the CRJ because - it´s faster, but there are still a few places in this world where the ATR is a lot better (you can land it nearly everywhere, ....)

Jumbolino.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 29 Dec 2003, 14:39

I voted for the Dornier 328 JET, but only for the beauty of it.
I've never flown any of those planes, that's why I cannot really judge and tell which one is the best.

Chris

Jumbolino · Post by **Jumbolino** » 29 Dec 2003, 15:49

@Avro
seems that I was lucky, I have flown all of them except the Fokker mentioned (but I had flights with Fokker 70 and Fokker 100, but this isn´t a real commuter aircraft, but very beautiful planes, a shame that Fokker is gone away ....)

Jumbolino.

Post by **luchtzak** » 29 Dec 2003, 17:35

I am sorry but I can't understand why 2 people allready voted for ATR 42/72 !!

All my planes that I have flown with that ugly non-aircraft looking piece of scrap was my worst experience!!

I remember that after 'engines off' the passengers where not allowed to stand up before the tail-prop (metal object to stick in the tail of the plane to prevent it tilting over) was installed, small seat-pitch, in your rear galley you had to move some passenger-bags before you could have access in some of the trolleys and if you where lucky you could welcome 150 kgs of sandbags in the back of the plane!!

Jumbolino · Post by **Jumbolino** » 30 Dec 2003, 09:58

Hi Bart,
One of the non-understandable people was me

Well, I had approx 80 flights with an ATR-42/72 of FU and EW and for such a small person like me it's very comfortable (except the experience the EU Commisioner of agriculture had the seat nearby me, that was thuna-experience but not the fault of the ATR, but maybe because of his over-weight)
and in comparison to an Embraer or Saab 2000 the overhead bin's for your hand luggage are quite comfortable (you can place there a normal sized trolley without any difficulties not so in an Embraer and of course the overheads of an CRJ are even smaller), so what you have against an ATR ? it's a little bit slow - ok - but even comfortable

Jumbolino.

AN124 · Post by **AN124** » 30 Dec 2003, 10:04

My vote will also go the the ERJ series of Embrear.
Really good looking aircraft and their are really comfortable to fly.
I flew sometimes in the EMB145 of KLM Exel and the plane is really stable in the air and you got enough space to store your luggage and other stuff. And almost no noise in the cabin.

I agree with Bart on the ATR42/72. I had several flights on these machines and I just don't like flying with them. The cabin is noisy and everything around you is shaking due to the vibrations of the props.

Best Regards,
Yvo

Post by **luchtzak** » 30 Dec 2003, 10:28

I will re-position myself in the ATR 42/72-issue

The ATR 42/72 is no good for people working on there (e.g. flight attendants), as a passenger I cannot tell

terenia · Post by **terenia** » 30 Dec 2003, 10:32

luchtzak wrote: if you where lucky you could welcome 150 kgs of sandbags in the back of the plane!!

Why would you put sandbags in the plane

Post by **luchtzak** » 30 Dec 2003, 10:50

terenia wrote:Why would you put sandbags in the plane

To have a nice balanced aircraft.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 30 Dec 2003, 11:21

Well, if you have to put sand bags in the plane to balance it, then you have a problem with the design (In my opinion).
You Loose Cargo space, and burn more fuel just to be able to balance the plane correctly. Seems to be a strange solution

I think it would have been better to solve the problem when building the plane.

Ciao
Chris
8)

vliegtuigfreak · Post by **vliegtuigfreak** » 30 Dec 2003, 11:23

ATR's fault!!
Is ATR french? And whats the fully name of ATR?

Greetingzz
Sonny

A318 · Post by **A318** » 30 Dec 2003, 11:45

vliegtuigfreak wrote:ATR's fault!!
Is ATR french? And whats the fully name of ATR?

Greetingzz
Sonny

ATR planes are made by France-based Avions
de Transport Regional.

Now you know why it flies so awfull

Greetz,

Erwin

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