2008-2009 Liège Airport (LGG) latest news

[an-148]

TV-reportage from the LLOYD'S:
(on dutch only):http://www.lloyd.be/nl/lloydtv/item.php?id=101

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I was not tooooooooooooo far from reality with my enthusiasm, or ?
http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/economie ... 0695.shtml

Hey this is far more interesting than I first thought.
Indeed, this small airport could do exactly what LGG did a few year ago.
Becomming a full cargo airport in a region that really needs it.
Clever alliance for a win/win situation in the future.

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Nice pics from last sunday, some biz jets for Spa-Francorchamp F1 race:
http://www.mst-aviation.nl/portal/modul ... ic&t=10628

[Atlantis]

The NMBS will decide this week if they will join Carex. Carex is a holding who's main task will be quick cargotrain services. TNT and Fedex have asked several times for fast HST cargotrains and this for express and other cargo.

Their purpose is to use the HST high speed tracks during the night. Five cities will create Eurocarex: Liege, Paris, Lyon, Amsterdam and London.

In a second stage: Bordeaux, Keulen or Frankfurt will join Eurocarex.

In the long term: Barcelona, Madrid, Milan and Berlin will also join Eurocarex.

At this moment Siemens and Alstom are finalising the last tracks. Purpose is to reach a speed of 300 km/h.
New trains will be build for this: the fuselage of the train will be the same as an airplane, the same cargo/pallets has to fit in both
Term: 2012.

[an-148]

The NMBS will decide this week if they will join Carex. Carex is a holding who's main task will be quick cargotrain services. TNT and Fedex have asked several times for fast HST cargotrains and this for express and other cargo.

Their purpose is to use the HST high speed tracks during the night. Five cities will create Eurocarex: Liege, Paris, Lyon, Amsterdam and London.

In a second stage: Bordeaux, Keulen or Frankfurt will join Eurocarex.

In the long term: Barcelona, Madrid, Milan and Berlin will also join Eurocarex.

At this moment Siemens and Alstom are finalising the last tracks. Purpose is to reach a speed of 300 km/h.
New trains will be build for this: the fuselage of the train will be the same as an airplane, the same cargo/pallets has to fit in both
Term: 2012.

source (on dutch): http://www.nieuwsbladtransport.nl/nieuw ... Carex.html

the location for the loading/unloading station is to be seen on the following animation:
http://www.liegeairport.com/liege-airpo ... oppements/

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One more source in french, with a lot of details:
http://www.lalibre.be/economie/actualit ... -fret.html

It seems that the project is getting serious and that Liège is an important part of it.
Very interesting !

<rail and not aviation related>
The main disadvantage of this whole high speed link is the slow 60km/h north-south link in Brussels.
An high speed rail ring around Brussels would be interesting in the future
</rail and not aviation related>

[an-148]

http://www.belleair.it/orari.aspx?lang=it

Belle Air initiated the routes to PRN and TIA only for the summer season (2/week)
one month ago they decided to continue the route to PRN during winter and increase to 3/week.
since yesterday, they decided the same for TIA (2/week) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(next destination SKP or TGD ?????????????.........wait and see)

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Winter timetable for pax flight:
http://www.liegeairport.com/documents/t ... ehiver.htm

[an-148]

The NMBS will decide this week if they will join Carex. Carex is a holding who's main task will be quick cargotrain services. TNT and Fedex have asked several times for fast HST cargotrains and this for express and other cargo.

Their purpose is to use the HST high speed tracks during the night. Five cities will create Eurocarex: Liege, Paris, Lyon, Amsterdam and London.

In a second stage: Bordeaux, Keulen or Frankfurt will join Eurocarex.

In the long term: Barcelona, Madrid, Milan and Berlin will also join Eurocarex.

At this moment Siemens and Alstom are finalising the last tracks. Purpose is to reach a speed of 300 km/h.
New trains will be build for this: the fuselage of the train will be the same as an airplane, the same cargo/pallets has to fit in both
Term: 2012.

the SNCB/NMBS has decided:

http://www.lloyd.be/nieuws/id22460-Infr ... Carex.html

[an-148]

here is the reason for the presence of Fedex MD-11 in LGG last month:
http://www.meuse-rhine-journal.com/html ... 33225.html

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for the first 8 months of 2008, LGG had 301.342 pax (+21%).
Nice growth again for the 3rd pax airport of Belgium.

I guess the strike in BRU and the fog in CRL helped a bit
Previous years figures : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li%C3%A8ge_Airport

[an-148]

contacts between Aerosur (Bolivia) and TNT:
http://www.lameuse.be/la_une/details/li ... riat.shtml

[Atlantis]

TNT is the biggest client of LGG but due to the economic crisis we have to take some messures. There is less demand in airfreight. In December we will give full information.

[an-148]

TNT is the biggest client of LGG but due to the economic crisis we have to take some messures. There is less demand in airfreight. In December we will give full information.

on the same subject:

http://www.nieuwsbladtransport.nl/nieuw ... ijden.html

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This is only the begining, the whole sector is suffering because all sectors from all countries are suffering.

[an-148]

contacts between Aerosur (Bolivia) and TNT:
http://www.lameuse.be/la_une/details/li ... riat.shtml

if you understand French: here is a video to look at, concerning this matter (with interview of the CEO of Aerosur):

http://www.actu24.be/article/videos/bel ... 02999.aspx

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It seems that the EL-AL Cargo trafic is quite low ...
Does anybody know if they are still using other airports ?

For last week :

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19OCT2008 	LY 0872 	LGG 	TLV 	19OCT2008 01:45:00 	19OCT2008 05:55:00 	74F
20OCT2008 	LY 1802 	LGG 	TLV 	20OCT2008 01:05:00 	20OCT2008 05:15:00 	74F
20OCT2008 	LY 0862 	LGG 	TLV 	20OCT2008 14:10:00 	20OCT2008 18:20:00 	74F
23OCT2008 	LY 0810 	LGG 	TLV 	23OCT2008 00:00:00 	23OCT2008 04:10:00 	74F
23OCT2008 	LY 1832 	LGG 	TLV 	23OCT2008 22:15:00 	24OCT2008 02:25:00 	74F
25OCT2008 	LY 0882 	LGG 	TLV 	25OCT2008 10:00:00 	25OCT2008 14:10:00 	74F
25OCT2008 	LY 0872 	LGG 	TLV 	25OCT2008 23:45:00 	26OCT2008 03:55:00 	74F

19OCT2008 	LY 0861 	LGG 	JFK 	19OCT2008 17:00:00 	19OCT2008 19:05:00 	74F
23OCT2008 	LY 1831 	LGG 	JFK 	23OCT2008 01:05:00 	23OCT2008 03:10:00 	74F
24OCT2008 	LY 0841 	LGG 	JFK 	24OCT2008 23:20:00 	25OCT2008 01:25:00 	74F

[Atlantis]

What was their goal? Several flights a day? Bad moment, worldwide decrease of more then 7% in cargo.

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??

20% growth - 7% decrease is still positive to me ...

CAL is also having several flights a day between LGG, TLV and JFK
(yesterday only : 2xJFK and 2xTLV)
The amound of cargo between those destination is insane. Fresh product mostly.

And it should be more, i'm surprised by the low trafic of El Al ...

[an-148]

I remember when we were speaking in these columns about the transfer from AMS and LUX to LGG in addition to the already existing (night) traffic at LGG: someone came up with a number of 20 flights a week only for AMS.........

so 20 + 6 (at LGG before oct6.) + 4 (at LUX before oct6.) = 30 ..... where are they gone

has El Al lost 50% of its traffic when the general cargo decline is 7% ??