teddybAIR wrote:Despite the many - often misplaced - "expert" opinions, one can conclude nothing on the causes of the crash today. Most of the arguments I read in press or forums are pure speculations. The inconvenient truth is that we will all have to wait for the final report of the crash investigation if we want to know what really caused this crash. It is very tipical for tabloid press to start digging into the company's history or to mention tables with historic crashes that happened with similar aircraft. Nevertheless, this has 0,0% predictive value into what caused this accident. As aviation enthousiasts I would like to call upon you guys to be the more mature people in your environment and not join these wild speculations.
So far, no luchtzak-member has speculated about the cause of the crash. The initial press reports during the first couple of hours of the crash all reported an engine fire. And the sources are quite reliable for other stories: TVE, El Pais, El Mundo, CNN, VRT. However, if the engine fire was mentionned here at luchtzak as possible cause, it was always done with clear indication of the external source that suggests this cause. Just to indicate that it was a kind of speculation from a third party.
Trust most of the luchtzak-members have heard meanwhile that the video footage from MAD ATC proofs that there was no engine fire at take off. Nobody posted it so far, as we indeed know it's impossible to say now what caused the crash (so far, we even don't know exactly what happened). Same applies for the technical intervention after a first take off was aborted: it's discussed in every online newspaper, but not here.
fcw wrote:LX-LGX wrote:VTM-guest was Peter Denruyter, senior VTM-journalist and co-writer of a book on Sabena's bankruptcy. He said that the structural design from the MD-82 caused the high number of casualties in this crash - where apparently an engine caught fire just before or during take off. Denruyter said that's why almost no planes with engines at the back of the plane, very close to the cabin, are built anymore.
On Radio 1, Luk De Wilde, another self declared "aviation expert" said the same.
Absolute bulls**t, the proof: the tailpiece, which was between the two engines is still more or less intact! One could even argue that as the engines are further away from the fuel tanks it is safer...
Another example of irresponsible journo's scaring Joe Public. Shame on them!
Peter Denruyter is - just like me - an aviation enthousiast. But he also reports on all aviation incidents for his broadcasting company: fair enough to comment also on this crash. And once again: he didn't comment on what happened, but on the high number of fatalities. Just like all of us, he indeed thaught at that moment (3,5 hours after the crash) that the plane skidded off the runway, without take off.
Luk De Wilde really is an aviation professional = he's working full time in Belgian aviation business. Trust being an aviation professional is not a privilege for those in the cockpit? History here has proven that their knowledge of aviation-related matters (like the travel trade) isn't as good as their technical knowledge.
Media in Germany are saying they went through the check-list in a rush because of the delay and simply forgot that point and than indeed the warning system for whatevre reason did not work either. And there seems to have been a similar accident 1987 in Detroit with an MD-82 as well ...