Brussels Airlines and Jet Airways combine their FFP

Post by **sn26567** » 23 Sep 2007, 10:25

Brussels Airlines and Jet Airways signed a contract by which they combine their respective frequent flyer programmes (FFP): passengers on Brussels Airlines can now earn miles on the whole network of Jet Airways flights and vice versa.

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 23 Sep 2007, 11:51

Very good news!!!!

Ducatibiker · Post by **Ducatibiker** » 23 Sep 2007, 19:03

Yes, and I hope
-we will have access to awards in F Class
-Jet Airways/Privilege join *Alliance

Air Key West · Post by **Air Key West** » 23 Sep 2007, 21:17

I don't have any travel on 9W planned in the near future, but if I had to fly with them, I would put my miles into my AF-KL Flying Blue account. Although I find AF-KL to have become lousy airlines, their Frequent Traveller Program is good, far better than SN Privilege. If you're an active member in Flying Blue or Miles-and-More (LH), it might not be a bad idea to have your 9W put into these accounts, since I'm very pessimistic about b.air's future (and consequently about the future of their FFP). What will we do with SN Privilege miles if most of their flights (or the airline) is grounded because of a lack of pilots (or bad financial results) ? I know, this is not very nice of me towards b.air, but they only have themselves to blame for the bad atmosphere they have created.

Ducatibiker · Post by **Ducatibiker** » 23 Sep 2007, 21:55

This is actually a very good point. When Sabena went bankrupt, the Qualiflyer miles remain valid because of a different organisation - Qualiflyer. I am not sure about Privilege...

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 23 Sep 2007, 22:16

Air Key West,

Can you explain what is so much better in Flying Blue?

I am member of both and I rather like Privilege because I can use my miles easily (I had problems using my Flying blue miles before).

Curious about your experience ...

Regards,
Danny

Ducatibiker · Post by **Ducatibiker** » 23 Sep 2007, 22:50

*Alliance
-Elite status is recognised on all airlines
-Awards in F
-Upgrade for points on international routes on ALL members
-awards available on all members airlines and some code sharing
-Elite status is based on mileage accrual
-dedicated service for 1K/awards+Credit of mising miles is easier
-access to fast lane in security
-pre boarding
-special seating in Economy + on some members airlines such as UA,NZ
-1 million status for very loyal customers
-Gold will get you free meals in Y on BMI (and Champagne !!!)
-recognition on board
-specific check in for Gold/1K

Privilege
-accumulatation of low number of miles
-Elite status is not recognised on other airlines such as British or American
-Except for B.Air flights, it is not possible to upgrade for points - as on partner airlines AA, British or Jet
-No F awards
-very limited inventory available for awards on British Airways or American
-Elite status is based on mileage accural and residence: easier for non resident in Belgium to gain Gold/Platinum - totally absurd
-no dedicate line for Platinum - no manager -
-for platinum, it says on the web that you are invited to special events - those never took place
-platinum have access to fast security lane - it says on the web but the ticket counter and check in never heard of the sticker...does not work !
-no pre boarding for Gold/Platinum
-no special seating available on African flights
-Promotions posted on the web site after the starting date
-no million level for ex Sabena !!! even worse, don't mention you were a former Circle
-no recognition (especially ex. Virgin staff who do not seem to know the program Privilege and its elite levels..)
-Car Rental: just changed from Avis to Hertz ....Why ? Do you expect you ex Sabena and SNBA customers to just switch program ......You asked us to be loyal to Avis then, now we have to change again....
-no more Master Card with possibility to accrue miles (only Amex)
-no check in for Platinum
-poor communication (non existent for Platinum)

codo · Post by **codo** » 24 Sep 2007, 01:26

Ducatibiker wrote:*Alliance
-access to fast lane in security

Privilege
-......

Forget it. At Brussels Airport fast lane , when you are a LH senator member you don't pass the fastlane. Only Eurobonus from SAS , although SAS and LH are both part of star alliance.

Ducatibiker · Post by **Ducatibiker** » 24 Sep 2007, 10:21

codo wrote:
Ducatibiker wrote:*Alliance
-access to fast lane in security

Privilege
-......
Forget it. At Brussels Airport fast lane , when you are a LH senator member you don't pass the fastlane. Only Eurobonus from SAS , although SAS and LH are both part of star alliance.

You are right - * alliance Gold or 1K does not work in Brussels but it does in other airports (US, Canada, Zurich which I tried latetely). The bad news and this is totally absurd is that Privilege Patinum card will not give you access to the fast lane in any airport - even in BRU - but it says otherwise on the web site - you need to ask for a sticker at BRU check-in

I tried. The check in person had never heard of the this. The supervisor had heard about it but had no sticker. He suggested to talk to the girl seating in front of the fast lane. I then check with the Brussels Airlines Ticketing...the man seating on the very right told me that only b.flex passengers have access. I invited him to check on the web site. His answer was that he had no time for that....

I know detail, detail...

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:37

I'd like to share my experience with privilege with you as well,

All my familly is gold,(5 of us)and i'm flying regularly Etihad to come back to Belgium.

When it's time to buy the ticket, i always take it from SN,meaning that my flight number is a SN flight,and therefore the money i pay sometimes months before the flight, goes to SN pocket...

I was quite disapointed that they refused me the access to the lounge, claiming i was not flying on a SN flight, altough the ticket was issued by SN,and the flight number also was SN....

Whats the purpose of being Gold with SN then????

***edit to BA>>>SN****

Ducatibiker · Post by **Ducatibiker** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:56

Wich lounge was it ?

Air Key West · Post by **Air Key West** » 24 Sep 2007, 19:48

Dear Luchtzak guests, to avoid confusion, please don't use BA for Brussels Airlines, in the airline industry BA is widely known to stand for British Airways (or as some will say Bloody Awful).
As regards denied access to the security fast lane at BRU for LH Business pax and Star Alliance elite members, I think it's probably due to LH not wanting to pay for it (only a guess, but maybe a good one).
If I remeber well at VIE there is a security fast lane for all Business pax, but at other airports (including LHR Terminal 1 at least) it is limited to airlines which are prepared to contribute to it financially. Or am I wrong ?

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 25 Sep 2007, 07:56

Ducatibiker wrote:Wich lounge was it ?

The Brussels Airline one upstair...

Does it means that if you are flying a partner flight and being gold with SN and on top of this with a ticket(eco) bought from SN ....you don't have access to the business lounge???

Come on....

Ducatibiker · Post by **Ducatibiker** » 25 Sep 2007, 08:36

I just re-read the rules on the web site regarding access to Gold and indeed, you have access

Eglish text: "when flying Brussels Airlines"
French text "en voyageant"
Dutch "op alle vluchten'

Although the three notions are different, it does not say that they flights need to be operated by Brussels Airlines. The fact that you are ticketed by Brussels Airlines is good enough for me.

I would definitively write and complain that you were not admitted to the lounge with a Gold Card !

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 25 Sep 2007, 08:39

Desert Rat,

I am also privilege gold. I had never this problem, even if flying a partner airline (as long as you have a SN flight code). Only platinum members will also gain access when flying on another airline without SN code ...

Maybe you looked suspicious

Did you show your privilege gold card? I was denied access once (not in BRU) not having it with me. On another occasion I forgot it but I could give my number so they let me in (BRU) ... I even several times got in with my wife ánd children which is normally not allowed since you can only take one guest. (But I guess my daughters looked so charming that they could not decide otherwise ...

)

Regards,
Danny

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 25 Sep 2007, 09:28

Well, Thanks a lot Danny

Of course i showed them the Gold card, anyway....

...better shave my beard i guess....