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lcc
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Post by lcc »

Buzz wrote:Most people on this forum don't seem to understand the low cost market.

They understand the fact that there is no better advertisment than being in the news all the time, good or bad.
Fuck*** brillant!

100% agree on your first sentence

200% for the second. MOL thanks all the "Ryanair basher" for their support and free publicity. Not only he upset you, but you also allow him to earn more money!
Indeed, there is never bad publicity, there is only publicity. Southwest did exactly the same thing few years ago with its outrageous add.

Of course Ryanair desserves its reward. Without Ryanair, millions of people couldn't afford to buy any air ticket. Impact of Ryanair on the developement of Ireland is also significant.
Further, stop to think that people who work for Ryanair had a gun on their temp (?) when they signed the contract. They could have many reasons (better salary than the country they come from, curiosity, passionating by lcc etc) but that's their choice.
MOL is the only man in Europe about whom we can believe that he will always keep its costs low and I am very happy for him.

Air Key West
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Post by Air Key West »

I don't even expect SQ economy type service on FR. The thing that upsets me with FR is MOL's arrogance, blackmailing airports where FR has a dominant position, blackmailing hotels, car rental companies, bus services so they give him very high commissions when you book them on FR's web site. Some might say : it's not blackmailing, it's just a clever commercial policy. Wrong, if you have a dominant position and you abuse your power, it's close to unlawful commercial practice. I have got nothing to people being able to travel all over Europe thanks to low fares. It's the practices of some of these LLC which upset me. FR's web site is a jungle with all its hard to find small print which changes regularly in order to confuse customers. I once went on their web site, made the effort to look up and read all the hard to find small print and decided to give up. But I have no problems with others flying FR and feeling great. Everybody has his own perception of things.
In favor of quality air travel.

airazurxtror
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Post by airazurxtror »

Air Key West wrote: FR's web site is a jungle with all its hard to find small print which changes regularly in order to confuse customers. I once went on their web site, made the effort to look up and read all the hard to find small print and decided to give up. But I have no problems with others flying FR and feeling great. Everybody has his own perception of things.
If you can't use FR website, I wonder how you can enjoy, let's say, SN - or even Brussels Airport's websites !
I find the FR website quite simple and easy to use. How often do you find an airline website that gives you with the fares on 20 consecutive days at a glance so as you can choose the best one ?
But, as you say, everybody has his own perception of things.
For me, I have no problem with others not flying FR - or flying SN, AZ and the like - and feeling great ...

Air Key West
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Post by Air Key West »

I agree with you on one point : b.air's web site is close to a disaster. At first glance, it looks very nice, but when you start to use it, you realize it is not user friendly and it is full of language mistakes in the French version. When an airline does not make the effort to communicate without language mistakes in one of its country's official languages, there is a problem. And it's not the only one on b.air's web site.
In favor of quality air travel.

Ducatibiker
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Post by Ducatibiker »

Air Key West wrote:I agree with you on one point : b.air web site is close to a disaster. At first glance, it looks very nice, but when you start to use it, you realize it is not user friendly and it is full of language mistakes in the French version. When an airline does not make the effort to communicate without language mistakes in one of its country's official languages, there is a problem. And it's not the only one on b.air's web site.
I agree with you - we should have a sepearate post on that subject...

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TUB001
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Post by TUB001 »

Air Key West wrote:I don't even expect SQ economy type service on FR.
Really? I was expecting a first class service when I paid 0.02€ all included for a return flight to STN, and a night in a 4 star hotel when my flight got cancelled due to fog one day...

One specialist here will say they cheat on you for that :-)
Don't know where the cheating is... "you get what you pay for", others will say... and they are totally right.

I'd say that the ones complaining all the time about LCC's are naive, nothing else. That's it.

Air Key West
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Post by Air Key West »

First of all, I have not seen anyone here "complaining all the time about LCCs". The ones who are naive are those who fail to notice the practives of SOME LCCs which aim mainly at misleading passengers and blackmailing inter alia small airports where they have a dominant position. Those who fail to notice this are naive and those who don't want to admit it are not acting in good faith. Have a look at FR's website and at the web sites of, for instance, Vueling or (new) Click4sky.
I am just as critical of some LCCs as I am critical of some traditional airlines when these are doing the wrong thing.
I also object to traditional airlines which don't show you the final price of your ticket when you are looking up a ticket price. Among traditional carrier, KL, IB, BA (and probably of few others) will immediately show you the final price. No SURprices. Why cannot all airlines (LCCs and traditional carriers alike) do the same ?
With FR I object to them telling you on their web site, for instance, that they are flying from Brussels (Charleroi), when the only acceptable way of presenting things would be : Charleroi (Brussels).
It's obvious that on this forum we have those totally in favour of FR and those who are not (mostly because of the "objectively" misleading practices and MOL's arrogance).
Nobody is going to change one's point of view. The best thing to do would be to stop discussing this, as we are going nowhere, we are going round in circles.
In favor of quality air travel.

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