BRU 23/07/2007

Post by **tangolima** » 22 Jul 2007, 17:45

Hello,

Europe Airpost B737:

09.55-10.40 FPO 1783/1783 CDG-BRU-OPO

Greetings,
Kristof

Post by **tangolima** » 22 Jul 2007, 19:16

Hello,

Another special visitor but always summer guest but it stay special:

Royal Air Maroc B747 CN-RGA:

Arr. at 13.10 as AT 838 from CMN

Greetings,
Kristof

Vesalius · Post by **Vesalius** » 23 Jul 2007, 13:18

Royal Air Maroc B747 landed 10 minutes ago on the 07L
Yups, since noon the landings are on 07L!

Sincargo and a Beauty came in on the 07L as well.

edit: current METAR for EBBR
EBBR 231050Z 10008KT 070V130 9999 -RA FEW046 17/13 Q1001 NOSIG

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 23 Jul 2007, 13:22

Vesalius wrote:Royal Air Maroc B747 landed 10 minutes ago on the 07L
Yups, since noon the landings are on 07L!

also saw a 737 JAF
and now 13.26 a b.air avro(?)
13:28 b.air 737
13:32 b.air 737

jan_olieslagers · Post by **jan_olieslagers** » 23 Jul 2007, 13:35

Vesalius wrote:Royal Air Maroc B747 landed 10 minutes ago on the 07L
Yups, since noon the landings are on 07L!

Sincargo and a Beauty came in on the 07L as well.

edit: current METAR for EBBR
EBBR 231050Z 10008KT 070V130 9999 -RA FEW046 17/13 Q1001 NOSIG

So they activated the very unusual 07L with a slight tailwind? But I have my doubts about this METAR, here in Brussels city centre I see a solid overcast... and it looks quite lower than 4600 feet too

Vesalius · Post by **Vesalius** » 23 Jul 2007, 14:37

Slight tailwind? Winds are from 110° @ 8kts... that's tailwind for the 25R indeed, but suitable for the very unusual 07L as you stated.

Indeed the METAR is not correct, regarding the overcast.
I've looked it up on http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/metar.shtml

Anyone want to share another source?

rut-her · Post by **rut-her** » 23 Jul 2007, 14:45

According to the ATIS channel:
07L for arrivals
07R for departures
Wind 090° @ 7 knots

Normally with this conditions they would use 02 for landings, but 07 is also possible.
Note that there is an ILS on the 02 and not on the 07L or R.
I don't know why they're using the 07's today.

Greetz,
Rutger

Godfather · Post by **Godfather** » 23 Jul 2007, 14:48

There's nothing wrong with the METAR.

Skystef · Post by **Skystef** » 23 Jul 2007, 14:52

jan_olieslagers wrote:
Vesalius wrote:METAR for EBBR
EBBR 231050Z 10008KT 070V130 9999 -RA FEW046 17/13 Q1001 NOSIG
So they activated the very unusual 07L with a slight tailwind? But I have my doubts about this METAR, here in Brussels city centre I see a solid overcast... and it looks quite lower than 4600 feet too

METAR is correct.
New rule since about one year: at the Belgian civil airports cloudbase above 5000 ft ain't mentioned anymore as not of significant use for aviation.

jan_olieslagers · Post by **jan_olieslagers** » 23 Jul 2007, 14:59

Vesalius wrote:Slight tailwind? Winds are from 110° @ 8kts... that's tailwind for the 25R indeed, but suitable for the very unusual 07L as you stated.

My mistake, apologies!

Godfather · Post by **Godfather** » 23 Jul 2007, 15:05

In case of several cloud types and/or layers, criteria of reporting:

- 1st group: lowest cloud regardless amount
- 2nd group: next cloud layer with minimum covarge of 3/8 octas
- 3th group: next cloud layer with minimal coverage of 5/8 octas
- 4th group: only if CB is present

Schep · Post by **Schep** » 23 Jul 2007, 15:08

It was nice to see the 747 RAM above the ring of Brussels !
Nice approach from Groot Bijgaarden - gear down - flaps down - descending to Brussels City for landing 07L !

It's a visual approach for 07L? More difficult for a pilot?

Godfather · Post by **Godfather** » 23 Jul 2007, 15:12

It's a VOR app, pilots initialy fly on a BUB vor radial. At 4,4nm from BUB they continue visually.

rut-her · Post by **rut-her** » 23 Jul 2007, 15:26

Schep wrote:It's a visual approach for 07L? More difficult for a pilot?

VOR-DME.
I don't have a clue about the difficultiness of both ILS and VOR-DME approaches.

Greetz,
Rutger

Aldgate · Post by **Aldgate** » 23 Jul 2007, 15:40

I don't know why they're using the 07's today.

The wind maxima for the use of rwy 02 do not allow for any tailwind. From the moment there is even the slightest tailwind component 02 cannot be used.

Godfather · Post by **Godfather** » 23 Jul 2007, 15:54

If you only look the the wind, rwy 02 can be used for landing. Wind 100° 06Kt -> for rwy 02 that's only cross wind. A maximum of 15kt crosswind (rwy 02 and 20) is allowed, gusts included.

Post by **tangolima** » 23 Jul 2007, 17:59

Hello,

16.30-18.25 Turkish airlines A310

Greetings,
Kristof

Post by **tangolima** » 23 Jul 2007, 19:32

Hello,

Sunexpress B757 21.23-22.25

Greetings,
Kristof

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 23 Jul 2007, 21:48

About 07L. Not the first time the last days.

It was the case last monday as well. Also aroud 12.00pm. And also the sight of AT's 744 over the ring.

This is very non-standard. The SIA Cargo 744 made a very very late final right turn for VOR/DME 07L. A bit of KaiTak in BRU

What a sight !!!!

This beast rules !!

FB.